# Toyota and Daimler Merger

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**Created:** [June 11, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619 "2025-06-11T19:17:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/1 "2025-06-11T19:17:35Z")

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Toyota trucks And Daimler have consummated a deal that creates a merged truck company in Japan. Each owns 25% of a group that includes Hino and Fuso trucks. I wonder how this will affect the commercial trucks sold in the US. I don’t see many of either on the road, though there are plenty of dealers in the US.

> **[Truck units of Toyota and Daimler reach merger deal, first announced two...](https://apnews.com/article/trucks-japan-toyota-daimler-hino-fuso-6442da9d518fbea4f3b46046dc6964b3)**
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> The truck divisions of Japan’s Toyota and Daimler of Germany have agreed to merge to work together in vehicle development, procurement and production.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/2 "2025-06-11T19:38:26Z")

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Seems like a Euro and Asian truck makers would be a formidable partnership in much of the world. Very few places run semi-trucks as big as ours in North America. Australia does… and even bigger with road trains.

These two would be strong alliance.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/3 "2025-06-11T21:42:28Z")

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Europe has big trucks too. When we were in Germany in 2003 we saw road trains between Hanover and Berlin.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/4 "2025-06-11T21:48:38Z")

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The typical semi I saw in Germany was about and 8/10s scale version of our old cab-over semis. I remember seeing double trailers but no triples. Do you remember seeing any triples?

We have doubles in the US but they are not common.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/5 "2025-06-11T21:48:44Z")

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I was surprised in Europe that all the semis I saw were cab-over, none with the long hood like in the US. Guess that comes with narrow roads and congested cities.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/6 "2025-06-11T22:05:12Z")

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I don’t recall triples, but I remember lots of doubles. The cab over tractors were almost all Volvos with some Daimler trucks too.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/7 "2025-06-11T22:41:31Z")

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Also, MAN is a major European builder of big commercial trucks.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/8 "2025-06-12T01:45:38Z")

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Now that you mention it, I remember seeing MAN tractors. It’s been almost 22 years since that trip and I’ve forgotten a lot.

One thing I haven’t forgotten is the trip from Amsterdam to Heslingen when we arrived. My FIL grew up there. We rented a 9 passenger van, I drove and my FIL was in the drinker’s seat. When we crossed the border into Germany, there was road work and all traffic was diverted. After getting off the highway we quickly pulled into a parking lot. My FIL started talking with a policeman, in English. Everyone speaks English in Germany (almost). My FIL had some trouble finding the English words he wanted. The cop had a huge grin on his face. My FIL finally confided the language problem he was having and I said why don’t you tell him in German. My FIL forgot he spoke German. After he used his native language, he didn’t have problems communicating anymore. What a hoot! 🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-and-daimler-merger/200619/9 "2025-06-12T16:04:22Z")

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As long as this doesn’t affect the Tacoma/Tundra trucks I’m good… lol
