# Toyota 2008 Camry hybrid - new rings pistons

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** camry-hybrid, toyota\
**Created:** [January 12, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812 "2022-01-12T18:51:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/21 "2022-01-15T07:00:57Z")

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> [@TheWonderful90s](#):
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> This dialect is meant to be used to gain status and express emotion and cannot communicate facts or other useful information without ambiguity.

Yeah what I said, minus gain status and express emotion and the rest of the quote.

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/22 "2022-01-15T10:50:50Z")

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> [@TheWonderful90s](#):
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> It’ is like a combination of Ebonics, laziness, complete disregard of spelling and sentence structure, often leaving the listener/reader wonder just what the hell was just said.

I fixed that for you. You’re welcome. Definitely not a recognized dialect. And these are our future parents and leaders. May God have mercy on us.

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**Author:** ![NYBo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nybo/32/17281_2.png) [@NYBo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/NYBo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/23 "2022-01-15T14:40:17Z")

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> [@PvtPublic](#):
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> And these are our future parents and leaders. May God have mercy on us.

…said every generation about the following one.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/24 "2022-01-15T14:50:07Z")

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> [@NYBo](#):
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> …said every generation about the following one.

Yup!  
As Socrates stated, circa **470 BC** :

_Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants._

🤔

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/25 "2022-01-16T18:41:36Z")

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> [@TheWonderful90s](#):
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> It’s a dialect of English often associated with mobile devices.

That short hand has been around for 70 years (long before the first mobile device was ever invented). Teletype operators used that short hand. Very very common back then. Then in the 60’s thru 80’s it was used by mainframe operators to communicate to other operators on the mainframe. All good things (or bad) come around again.

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/26 "2022-01-16T18:54:58Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> That short hand has been around for 70 years

Before that didn’t the telegraph use some sort of short hand?

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/27 "2022-01-16T19:27:04Z")

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> [@Renegade](#):
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> Before that didn’t the telegraph use some sort of short hand?

No idea. Long before my time.

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/28 "2022-01-16T19:40:29Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> No idea. Long before my time

A few years before my time also but I think that I read something about they charged by the letter so they used some sort of short hand to save the customers money.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/29 "2022-01-16T19:49:34Z")

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> [@Renegade](#):
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> I think that I read something about they charged by the letter

They charged by the word, thus leading to sometimes strangely-curtailed sentences in telegrams.

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/30 "2022-01-16T19:57:08Z")

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Thank you I knew it was something like that.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/31 "2022-01-16T19:59:42Z")

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I recently watched an episode of the old Burns & Allen show in which Gracie was at a telegraph office.  
It was pretty funny, as that show tended to be, and it dealt with the concept of charging by the word.

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/32 "2022-01-16T22:32:04Z")

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A telegraph message sent by an electrical telegraph operator or telegrapher using Morse code

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/33 "2022-01-16T22:48:57Z")

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> [@weekend-warrior](#):
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> operator or telegrapher using Morse code

I understand that they used Morse code but they still charged by the word so would use some type of short hand to save the customer money.

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/34 "2022-01-16T22:51:46Z")

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> [@weekend-warrior](#):
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> operator or telegrapher using Morse code

Also the telegrapher translated the Morse code into letters and words.

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-2008-camry-hybrid-new-rings-pistons/181812/35 "2022-01-16T23:02:23Z")

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I think the customer would just use as little money as possible to save money. the message would be sent by morse code going out, and then at the receiving end would be read in morse code and then written down in words for the customer. I did find this…

As telegrams have been traditionally charged by the word, messages were often abbreviated to pack information into the smallest possible number of words, in what came to be called “[telegram style](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_style)”.

The average length of a telegram in the 1900s in the US was 11.93 words; more than half of the messages were 10 words or fewer

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