# Tom and Ray in Cars 3

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207>\
**Category:** The Show\
**Created:** [June 22, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207 "2017-06-22T20:08:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/1 "2017-06-22T20:08:14Z")

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I just saw Cars 3 today, and the Magliozzi brothers were portrayed again as a Dodge Dart and Dodge A100. My question regard’s Tom’s lines, Cars 3 went into production in the middle of 2014, and Tom passed away later that year. Were the lines used in movie, simply lines that weren’t used from the first Cars movie or was Tom able to record his lines for this movie before he passed? In the movie they used some of Paul Newman’s unused lines from the first Cars movie, and I was wondering if the did the same for Tom,

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/2 "2017-06-22T20:10:50Z")

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Haven’t seen it but my grand kids did last weekend.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/3 "2017-06-22T20:36:22Z")

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I saw it and was wondering the same thing.

One thing that movies have done in the past for sequels - is to use lines from previous movies. Maybe even lines that were cut from the final release.

Paul Newman and George Carlin - also died before Cars 3 and their voices are there.

If the voice of Tom confuses you…have you seen Rogue One? They brought back a General from Star Wars episode 4 - the actor (Peter Cushing) died over 20 years ago. Not just the voice.

> **[Rogue One: the CGI resurrection of Peter Cushing is thrilling – but is it right?](https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2016/dec/16/rogue-one-star-wars-cgi-resurrection-peter-cushing)**
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> The late Star Wars villain’s return to the space franchise isn’t the first time a star has been digitally brought back to life, but could represent a tipping point for Hollywood

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/4 "2017-06-22T21:21:16Z")

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It won’t be long before any actor, living or dead, will be able to added to any moving as desired. Peter Cushing is just one good example. Imagine the anxiety of a current actor being replaced by the image and voice of a long dead actor simulated by a computer. I am thinking new Marilyn Monroe or John Wayne movies in 2018!

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/5 "2017-06-22T21:51:04Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> Imagine the anxiety of a current actor being replaced by the image and voice of a long dead actor simulated by a computer. I am thinking new Marilyn Monroe or John Wayne movies in 2018!

Well, there have already been commercials aired for several years featuring the images and voices (?) of Marilyn and Wayne, so it shouldn’t be a quantum leap to expand that type of technology to a full-length film.

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**Author:** ![Waterbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f07891/32.png) [@Waterbuff](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Waterbuff)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/6 "2017-06-22T21:53:09Z")

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The ‘scanning’ of human actors was already a large part of a movie

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/7 "2017-06-22T22:06:26Z")

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Unfortunately there’s an extremely ugly side to this technology.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/8 "2017-06-22T22:32:17Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> Unfortunately there’s an extremely ugly side to this technology.

Yes, but the folks who control Marilyn’s estate love it.  
In death, she is worth–literally–thousands of times more than she was in life, and some people are becoming incredibly wealthy from this electronic grave-robbing routine.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/9 "2017-06-23T01:28:29Z")

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Now that we are into movie talk, there was an article on new software that can mimic a person’s voice after only a few short lines of the real voice. After that you can have them say anything and it would hold up in court with voice recognition software. Very very very dangerous and what would that do to royalties for the actors? Are we entering a period where real actors will be redundant? No more Hollywood?

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/10 "2017-06-23T12:50:38Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> real actors will be redundant? No more Hollywood

I think we are very very close. Take the Marvel comics franchise movies. The out-of-this-world scenes (or Computer Generated Imagery) dominate the movie already. This includes much of the actor themselves. Then take a peek at the best animated films and the amazing detail rendered for the big screen. Hair follicles, lug nuts on cars, realistic surfacing. The technology is rapidly merging.

As for the owners of the rights… Michael Jackson, Elvis, Elizabeth Taylor are all in the top 5 grossing artists. Good for their families…

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/11 "2017-06-23T13:30:37Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Yes, but the folks who control Marilyn’s estate love it.

Unfortunately the ugly side is uglier then that.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/12 "2017-06-23T13:58:05Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> there was an article on new software that can mimic a person’s voice after only a few short lines of the real voice.

Related to that, there is supposed to be a new phone-related scam that involves the person (actually a recording) asking if you can hear her when you answer the phone. If you say “yes”, they allegedly capture that and later use it to claim that you acquiesced to some kind of deal. I can’t say for sure whether these allegations are true, but they have been reported by several consumer-oriented reporters.

When I get an obvious scam call, I just hang up, and–now–if I don’t catch on immediately that it is a scam call, at least I am very careful to NOT say “yes” to any questions when a stranger calls me.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/13 "2017-06-23T13:59:15Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> Unfortunately the ugly side is uglier then that.

Can you please elaborate?  
😕

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/14 "2017-06-23T14:36:39Z")

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"Related to that, there is supposed to be a new phone-related scam that involves the person (actually a recording) asking if you can hear her when you answer the phone. If you say “yes”, they allegedly capture that and later use it to claim that you acquiesced to some kind of deal. "

While that’s possible, it seems more scare than reality. People say “yes” all the time on the phone, no special question needed, and no major breakout of fraud has resulted.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/15 "2017-06-23T14:39:56Z")

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I sent you a message.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/16 "2017-06-23T14:44:04Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> People say “yes” all the time on the phone, no special question needed, and no major breakout of fraud has resulted.

That is true, and all of the news reports stated that there has been no verified fraud related to this phenomenon…yet.

Snopes researched these stories, and their conclusion was “unproven”.

> **['Can You Hear Me?' Scam Warning](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/can-you-hear-me-scam/)**
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> Dozens of news outlets reported on a purported scam wherein fraudsters supposedly falsify charges by randomly calling people and asking 'Can you hear me?'

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/17 "2017-06-23T14:55:30Z")

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I’ve received at least a half dozen of those calls. Never said yes…I just wait to hear them keep talking.

The biggest fraud right now is the Credit Card debt relief and the IRS. Both of those scams have actually collected MILLIONS from consumers.

I think the IRS scam is funny…They say that if you don’t pay they’re going to send the cops.

Rules #1 - NEVER EVER give your credit card information over the phone to unsolicited calls. NEVER.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/18 "2017-06-23T15:04:08Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> NEVER EVER give your credit card information over the phone to unsolicited calls

Yeah, but sometimes it is fun to play with them for awhile–like a cat with a mouse–if you have the time and are in a perverse mood.  
Scammer: Please give us your credit card number  
Me: Sure…please hold on while I get it  
(I then make them wait at least 5 minutes)  
Me: Okay, here it is. Please copy this down. Are you ready?  
Scammer: Yes  
Me: Okay, here it is. 123-456- **F#@k You!**

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/19 "2017-06-23T15:11:53Z")

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As tempting as that is, there is a case where the scammers ‘SWATTED’ the caller who messed with them, reported a crime at that person’s location, just to be extra-nasty.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tom-and-ray-in-cars-3/105207/20 "2017-06-23T15:17:28Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Yeah, but sometimes it is fun to play with them for awhile–like a cat with a mouse–if you have the time and are in a perverse mood.

I’ve done that twice over the years…I was bored…I kept the guy trying to sell me a bogus time-share on the line for at least 20 minutes. He go so frustrated with me he - he started cursing and then just hung up.

Here’s one way to handle it

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT2BNsMSwEo)

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