# Title issue for motercycle **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407 "2017-06-28T01:33:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/1 "2017-06-28T01:33:49Z")
So I have a 72 or 73 triumph 650 tiger owned since maybe 79, Now I bought it in Illinois, moved many places, but last licensed in either Ohio or Florida, re titled it everywhere but did not get plates as it was not running. Now I have contactacted our neighborhood watch officer His response “I have done some research and I’m sorry I don’t have an answer for you. You could try to get the DOT to issue you a new VIN and then title. That is the only thing I know to try.” Now I think since I had a WI title some way I could find the vin number. But cannot get a replacement title without the vin No number is stamped, I called a triumph dealer who had some old tigers and he could not find a number stamped into the frame. All I have is this stinkin lousy illegible sticker, Ma ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/d/d85225753f0969b88b24a11a4a04d622f65e4204.jpg)ybe if I found my insurance agent in FL but no clue who that was. Any ideas would be appreciated. A guy I know wants the bike and is willing to do a swaporama for an 86 Goldwing with 8600 miles, a bike he will buy then trade for the trumpet. ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/2 "2017-06-28T01:58:24Z")
What about the VIN on the engine? Are you saying the motor is clean also? To add, as far as I know Triumph ALWAYS stamped the VIN on their frames. I’ve owned 3 Bonnevilles and several Tigers over the years and all had the same VIN stamped on both motor and frame. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/3 "2017-06-28T02:03:58Z")
Here is the engine stamp as you can see the last numbers match the plastic Where was your frame stamped? sticker ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/6/608d217acc3b6b3ab4e698d46acb3031082be61a.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/4 "2017-06-28T02:07:15Z")
Perhaps this link can help. [http://www.motobrit.com/motc2/mpages/tech/numbers/trinumber.php](http://www.motobrit.com/motc2/mpages/tech/numbers/trinumber.php) I Googled “where are Triumph motorcycle VIN numbers located” and got a bunch of hits. The attached link is just one. You might try this approach. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/5 "2017-06-28T02:09:37Z")
Been there, was not any help as to location, no obvious malice as far as grinding off numbers I can see. Frustrating, because I can remember seeing the title, but cannot locate it. ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/6 "2017-06-28T02:27:52Z")
That mangled tag certainly looks like it’s carrying the bike VIN as it matches the engine case half. I’ll have to do a bit of research as the LE prefix is throwing me off. It’s been a long time since I’ve owned a Triumph but I thought most of them have an H prefix of some sort. I’ll rummage around a bit on this. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/7 "2017-06-28T02:33:21Z")
That is amazing you got an LE,but I thank you in advance and let me know what pizza joint you would like a delivery from, will order a gift card in your name if you figure this out.If you are looking at the engine stamp it is BE 11477 TR-6R ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/8 "2017-06-28T04:10:52Z")
If that is a BE 11477 TR06R the sources I see say it is a 650 Tiger made in Feb. 1971 or at least the engine is. If you can’t remember the name of you insurance agent , can you remember the company? If you do you can get a list of current agents for the area you lived. Maybe if you see the name you will recognize it. ---
**Author:** ![kurtwm1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kurtwm1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kurtwm1)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/title-issue-for-motercycle/105407/9 "2017-06-28T19:34:06Z")
I would contact the [antiquemotorcycle.org](http://antiquemotorcycle.org). Lots of bike buffs that might be able to help.