# This one is for Dave

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** plymouth\
**Created:** [December 30, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537 "2024-12-30T20:07:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/1 "2024-12-30T20:07:20Z")

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Something tells me that he would like this 1970 Hemi 'Cuda.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/1/d1216c1d1103cdbd6ef627dc4963d603f7a47244.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/2 "2024-12-30T20:57:54Z")

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Nah, too difficult to keep butterflies out of the coolant … lol …

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/3 "2024-12-30T21:09:46Z")

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I was at the Mecum auction when this $3.5M Hemi Cuda sold.

[https://www.conceptcarz.com/a8088/mecum-raises-the-bar-in-seattle-–-35-million-for-1971-hemi-cuda-convertible.aspx](https://www.conceptcarz.com/a8088/mecum-raises-the-bar-in-seattle-%E2%80%93-35-million-for-1971-hemi-cuda-convertible.aspx)

Apparently only 11 people bought a ragtop 4-speed Hemi Cuda in 1971. I thought there would have been more.

And no offense to @davesmopar or @old_mopar_guy, but $3.5M for a Plymouth? 😁

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**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/4 "2024-12-30T22:08:00Z")

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$3.5 million for any vehicle is absurd beyond belief, and even $350k for any vehicle is insane. Even a base model 1990’s Toyota Celica, Honda Prelude, Ford Probe, etc. is likely a more enjoyable vehicle to drive than this…hence why it’s in a museum and not someone’s garage.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/5 "2024-12-30T22:14:58Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> $350k for any vehicle is insane.

I recently saw an advert for a completely-restored version of my classic Ford truck for sale at $125,000. Pretty nice, mostly new everything. But I presume you won’t be making an offer? 😉

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/6 "2024-12-30T22:54:17Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> $3.5 million for any vehicle is absurd beyond belief,

So I suppose the $22 million for a 1 of 2 Duesenberg SSJ is beyond absurd? This is the highest price ever paid for an American car.😁

Then there is the $11 million paid for a 1968 Ford GT40. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/7 "2024-12-30T22:55:10Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> $3.5 million for any vehicle is absurd beyond belief, and even $350k for any vehicle is insane.

Are you aware that purchases like this are generally made for investment purposes? They hope the value will increase over time. $3.5M for a car is nothing compared to $4.3M for a football card:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/b/4/b4ce8b286b8478e31ac2fc6e0f898717d168f80c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/8 "2024-12-30T23:13:57Z")

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About 10 years ago I heard of someone selling (for $1M) for the original number one Superman comic book.1940’s era I think. I wonder how much it is worth now?

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**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/9 "2024-12-31T00:00:54Z")

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Hey, I have a fifty-six year old set of classic wheels in good condition. No rust! Lots of shiny chrome. Some paint scuffs. Frame still totally solid. Does need new tires in the spring. True classic!

Still runs well. Of course, it has only one gear, pedal, with coaster brakes. Schwinn Ladies Cruiser! Oh, yeah, it’s a bicycle but, still, it’s a classic. 😁😁😁

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/10 "2024-12-31T00:17:04Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> $3.5 million for any vehicle is absurd beyond belief, and even $350k for any vehicle is insane.

There you go using your personal net worth to determine how anyone else should spend their money. The people buying these cars have cubic yards of disposable income. If they can’t take the money with them, why not spend it on something they will enjoy?

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/11 "2024-12-31T02:33:49Z")

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And that was in 2014, it is est at 6+ million now IIRC…

The 1971 Hemi 'Cuda convertible 4 speed is the crown jewel of Mopar’s…  
I remember back 30 years ago that any 70-71ish front clips (fenders forward) in good shape was going for a minimum of $2500, crazy money back then…

And yes, some of the old muscle cars are an investment…  
You can take some of the late 60’s to early 70’s 340ci, 383ci, 426ci (max wedge), 440ci & 426ci Hemi Road Runners, Super Birds, Cuda’s etc etc and invest $100,000 to $200,000 restoring them and still make money off them… The return on investment can be very high…

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**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/12 "2024-12-31T02:49:19Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> why it’s in a museum and not someone’s garage.

No one drives cars this expensive. They flatbed them everywhere.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/13 "2024-12-31T03:03:24Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> Even a base model 1990’s Toyota Celica, Honda Prelude, Ford Probe, etc. is likely a more enjoyable vehicle to drive than this

Why didn’t you include that 1997 - 2001 Camry in there, which you seem to feel is the best vehicle for all purposes

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/14 "2024-12-31T03:37:25Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> No one drives cars this expensive.

Sure they do, just not often. Every car at the Simeone Foundation Automobile Museum in Philadelphia runs and is driven. There are 75 historically significant racing sports cars in the collection. They have Demo Days monthly where two to four cars are featured and driven. At the end of January there are three Bugattis for instance.

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/15 "2024-12-31T11:24:50Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> $3.5 million for any vehicle is absurd beyond belief, and even $350k for any vehicle is insane.

From all your previous posts I’m guessing you think anything over $2000 is absurd.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/16 "2024-12-31T13:27:11Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> No one drives cars this expensive. They flatbed them everywhere

Not true.

Every year at the Pebble Beach Concours before the judging there is a tour of about 80 miles for these cars. Multi million dollar cars on a road trip to prove they run as good as they look. It is used as a tie-breaker when judged.

And this year the Best in Show was given to an unrestored 90 year old Bugatti that drove the tour.

The museum I volunteer for drives and even races nearly every one of thier cars. Many worth north of $10 million. The Simeone museum in Phlly demonstrates their cars in a paved area next to the museum.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/17 "2024-12-31T13:34:53Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> The museum I volunteer for drives and even races nearly every one of thier cars.

How many of them are the _ultimate_ prize of car collectors, namely a 1997-2001 Camry?  
😏

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/18 "2024-12-31T13:42:34Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> _ultimate_ prize of car collectors, namely a 1997-2001 Camry?

That would be none… 😆

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**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/19 "2025-01-01T02:07:07Z")

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How many of them were driven to Pebble Beach?

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-one-is-for-dave/198537/20 "2025-01-01T02:11:29Z")

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None (or nearly none, not absolutely sure) were driven TO Pebble Beach. Kinda hard to drive there from Europe, South America or Asia.

Last year my museum’s 1 of 4 or 5 remaining 1929 Mercedes Benz SSK did a 3 day tour in Sonoma California.

Same year their Ferrari 250LM raced at the Goodwood Reunion, slid off track while leading, buffed the left rear fender on a tire wall, re-entered in 6th place and still won the race. The car was repaired the week it was back in Florida and sent to California (in a transporter) for another vintage race event.

Some collector cars ARE driven and enjoyed.

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