# This new battery technology would be a game-changer **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 28, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424 "2021-04-28T12:17:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/1 "2021-04-28T12:17:29Z")
> **[Recharge your phone in 30 seconds? Israeli firm says it can](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-israel-batteries/recharge-your-phone-in-30-seconds-israeli-firm-says-it-can-idINKCN0J815320141124)** > > An Israeli company says it has developed technology that can charge a mobile phone in a few seconds and an electric car in minutes, advances that could transform two of the world's most dynamic consumer industries. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/2 "2021-04-28T12:26:16Z")
I’ve stated several times in this forum…I know of at least 4 new battery startups here in the Boston area. They are either associated with MIT or Harvard. Billions of private money is being invested into battery R&D. The company(s) that come out on top could make all the investors extremely wealthy (or wealthier then the already are). ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/3 "2021-04-28T12:34:59Z")
Ready in 2016? Was story in pop science is 1972? ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/4 "2021-04-28T13:52:24Z")
Here’s the article’s date: _NOVEMBER 24, 2014_ Seven years ago, and still no sign of this miracle battery? Unfortunately, this is common with these kinds of announcements. My BS meter starting going off when it talked about nano-whatever. ---
**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/5 "2021-04-28T15:51:37Z")
Is this from the company that came up with gas mileage pills you put in the tank, or fuel ionizers, or all of the other products that are called “Wonder” or “Miracle”? Or should we believe it’s a technology being suppressed by a conspiracy of greedy capitalists? ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/6 "2021-04-28T15:52:37Z")
> [@wentwest](#): > > Or should we believe it’s a technology being suppressed by a conspiracy of greedy capitalists? Yes! Anything and everything that we don’t like has to be the result of some sort of conspiracy. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/7 "2021-04-28T16:06:20Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Seven years ago, and still no sign of this miracle battery? Unfortunately, this is common with these kinds of announcements. My BS meter starting going off when it talked about nano-whatever. It’s called drumming up investor money. This isn’t new with many startups. Many times investors will invest on an idea in the hopes it pans out. This is why investor capitalists look for 30% return on their money in 2-5 years. Many times it doesn’t pan out and they loose their investment. But when they hit a good one it can make them a lot of money. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/8 "2021-04-28T18:18:06Z")
I have to apologize to everyone. A friend forwarded it to me, under the guise of “news”. I didn’t check the date, and I think that instead of being “news”, it actually falls into the category of “olds”. 😉 I’m sorry for the confusion that ensued. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/9 "2021-04-28T20:44:11Z")
That’s OK, @VDCdriver. It was news to me, even if it’s yesterday’s tomatoes. Surely it takes longer to miniaturize and bring it to market. It could take maybe 5 years to produce the right size battery, then it takes another 5 to build the pilot plant and work the bugs out. Add another 5 to bring it to market at sufficient volume to be included it a line of smartphones. We are still several years away from market release, and my guess at timing might be optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/10 "2021-04-28T20:44:59Z")
> [@texases](#): > > My BS meter starting going off when it talked about nano-whatever. Nano-technology is a real thing. I work for a university that has a lab doing research on it. The A123 company makes LiFePO4 batteries that incorporate nano-technology. It does increase charge and discharge rates, but does not perform miracles. [https://www.nnin.org/research-support/nnin-sites/howard-university](https://www.nnin.org/research-support/nnin-sites/howard-university) ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/11 "2021-04-28T20:52:39Z")
> [@circuitsmith](#): > > Nano-technology is a real thing. Of course it is. It is also the favorite jargon to get tossed out by folks trying to sell something. The complete quote is “Using nano-technology to synthesize artificial molecules”. That ‘sythesize artificial molecules’ is another batch of jargon that says nothing. Hence my comment. Also, their claim to ‘charge an EV in 5 minutes’ would require a HUGE amount of current, more than my whole house service could deliver, more than any currently-existing charger could deliver. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/12 "2021-04-28T21:19:08Z")
> [@texases](#): > > It is also the favorite jargon to get tossed out by folks trying to sell something Yup! Throwing out a current buzzword in order to hawk one’s merchandise doesn’t necessarily mean that the word _really_ applies to one’s product. Thinking back to my childhood, Chlorophyll was the new “miracle” ingredient in toothpastes, mouthwashes, and a few other personal care/hygiene-related products. I still recall a Macy’s ad–circa 1955–hawking their new Chlorophyll-infused **neckties**. Talk about taking advantage of the public with malarkey! ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/13 "2021-04-28T22:02:00Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > Chlorophyll was the new “miracle” ingredient in toothpastes… Silly, but benign. > **[Doramad Radioactive Toothpaste](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doramad_Radioactive_Toothpaste)** > > Doramad Radioactive Toothpaste (Doramad Radioaktive Zahncreme) was a brand of toothpaste produced in Germany by Auergesellschaft of Berlin from the 1920s through World War II. It was known for containing thorium, a radioactive metal, and is an example of radioactive quackery. > The toothpaste was slightly radioactive because it contained small amounts of thorium obtained from monazite sands. Auergesellschaft used thorium and rare-earth elements in making industrial products including mantles for... ---
**Author:** ![Chewndog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Chewndog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Chewndog)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/14 "2021-04-28T22:10:55Z")
How about copper infused knee and back braces. I saw an ad the other day for copper infused face masks. I’m sure someone will buy because of this. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/this-new-battery-technology-would-be-a-game-changer/176424/15 "2021-04-28T23:38:39Z")
> [@Chewndog](#): > > How about copper infused knee and back braces. I saw an ad the other day for copper infused face masks. I’m sure someone will buy because of this. If a sports star hawks them, they’ll sell.