# They're getting close **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** tesla\ **Created:** [February 11, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884 "2012-02-11T00:54:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/1 "2012-02-11T00:54:33Z")
[http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/\_news/2012/02/10/10372901-tesla-reveals-new-model-x-crossover](http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/10/10372901-tesla-reveals-new-model-x-crossover) ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/2 "2012-02-11T00:59:57Z")
Their new sedan is pretty sweet too. > **[The Best Electric Car - Model S | Tesla](https://www.tesla.com/models)** > > Model S is the safest, quickest car on the road—with industry-leading performance, range and storage. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/3 "2012-02-11T01:26:41Z")
New models are all well and good, but can they survive financially without huge subsidies? Fisker’s having major problems: [http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/unable-to-meet-energy-department-targets-fisker-stops-work-at-delaware-plant/?ref=automobiles](http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/unable-to-meet-energy-department-targets-fisker-stops-work-at-delaware-plant/?ref=automobiles) ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/4 "2012-02-11T01:43:51Z")
And at $60,000 - $100,000, those Teslas aren’t going to really be solving any problems, except what someone can spend a BUNCH of money on… ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/5 "2012-02-11T01:47:02Z")
All true…but aren’t they gorgeous? ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/6 "2012-02-11T02:02:13Z")
You’d be amazed how much costs drop when you start producing them en masse. If you’re talking Camry numbers…I wouldn’t be surprised if the price dropped to below $40k. But it’s going to be LONG time before that. Hopefully I’ll be around to see it. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/7 "2012-02-11T02:02:16Z")
That’s up front cost. There is a substantial savings in gasoline. Since these are upscale cars, they should be compared to a similar sedan or SUV, like a Lexus, BMW or Mercedes. Note, though, that the base price model only has a range of 160 miles. If you want a range of 300 miles the cost is an extra $20,000. 300 miles is more like a gasoline powered car today. But if you don’t need to drive more than 120 miles per day (you can’t use the full range reliably) and don’t just have to have jaw dropping acceleration, the base car could be a reasonable replacement for an upscale vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![missileman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/missileman/32/1366_2.png) [@missileman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/missileman)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/theyre-getting-close/70884/8 "2012-02-11T02:58:20Z")
I don’t like the price at all but I like the way the styling is going. I have always loved gullwing doors.