# The WhaWha noise when the windows are down

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474>\
**Category:** The Show\
**Created:** [March 17, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474 "2012-03-17T19:25:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![str8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@str8](https://community.cartalk.com/u/str8)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/1 "2012-03-17T19:25:47Z")

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Vent Visors (Smoker’s Guards, Rain Protectors, what have you) really cut down, almost eliminate, the negative pressure…

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**Author:** ![raincity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@raincity](https://community.cartalk.com/u/raincity)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/2 "2012-03-17T20:25:02Z")

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Like Cindy, I also have a Jeep Liberty. I applied the rain guards over the windows and it eliminated the problem. I used the glue-on type, as those were the only ones available at the time, and they cost about $119. The in-channel type would be preferred; but either of them look great and solve this problem.

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**Author:** ![scottsta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@scottsta](https://community.cartalk.com/u/scottsta)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/3 "2012-03-17T21:24:48Z")

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I wonder if setting the vent to outside air and tuning on the fan would help.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/4 "2012-03-17T21:32:03Z")

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No, Scottsta, it doesn’t–or at least it hasn’t on all of the cars I’ve owned or ridden in that suffered from this problem.

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**Author:** ![myrrddin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@myrrddin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/myrrddin)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/5 "2012-03-17T21:41:58Z")

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Eliminate window whumping by ameliorating automobile aerodynamics with a large hammer.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/6 "2012-03-17T22:40:40Z")

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While C&C talk about aerodynamics of modern cars causing this, my first car that had this problem was an '86 Jeep Cherokee, with all the ‘aero’ of a brick. Go figger…

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**Author:** ![raincity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@raincity](https://community.cartalk.com/u/raincity)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/7 "2012-03-18T07:32:07Z")

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A post-script for Cindy if she is reading: A set of rain guards for Jeeps goes for about $30 on ebay, a much better deal than I got a few years ago. Good luck!

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**Author:** ![rich2431](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@rich2431](https://community.cartalk.com/u/rich2431)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/8 "2012-03-18T16:57:18Z")

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i open only the passenger side windows (front & rear) a little. creates a swirl …no buffeting

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**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/9 "2012-03-18T16:58:54Z")

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That was a re-run of an old show, and this thread is a re-run of an old thread:

> **[Whopping noise from open rear windows on 2010 Corolla LE](http://community.cartalk.com/discussion/2279677/whopping-noise-from-open-rear-windows-on-2010-corolla-le)**
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> I’ve learned I can’t drive with my rear windows open because it generates this whopping noise that’s so bad it hurts your ears and shakes the car a bit at highway speeds. Sounds like a helicopter sitting on top of the car. I’m thinking it’s caused...

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**Author:** ![rogerperkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a587f6/32.png) [@rogerperkins](https://community.cartalk.com/u/rogerperkins)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/10 "2012-03-18T21:29:53Z")

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Keep all the windows up, push the window lock button, and tell the kids they are sol.

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**Author:** ![wilecoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2bfe46/32.png) [@wilecoyote](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wilecoyote)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/11 "2012-03-19T17:44:37Z")

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I have had the best luck with that WhaWha noise and great air circulation by opening the sunroof and lowering one of the back windows a few inches. if you lower the rear driver side window, you get a good downbreeze on the passenger side, and if you open the passenger rear window, you get a driver side downbreeze. The further you lower the rear window, the stronger the downbreeze. No WhaWha.

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**Author:** ![bryancampbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@bryancampbell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bryancampbell)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/12 "2012-03-19T21:35:09Z")

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I used to have a car with no AC. In the summer I would roll down both the drivers window and the rear passengers window. Even going 70mph on the freeway, the wind didn’t seem to bother me. Open any window other than those two and a hurricane would break lose in the car. I never had any passengers in the car, so I’m not sure if this setup is any good for them.

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**Author:** ![mkm3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@mkm3](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mkm3)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/13 "2012-03-20T18:33:42Z")

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If you open the front passenger side window and the rear driver side window, you get air flow without the annoying “whawha” noise. If you open the front driver side window and the rear passenger side window, same thing (but air rushes past the driver). If you open the front and rear windows on the passenger side of the car, there is no wind noise, but some air swirls onto the driver.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/14 "2012-03-21T19:17:31Z")

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It really depends on the vehicle.

My 98 Pathfinder…if I rolled down either back window - NO PROBLEM. If I rolled down BOTH rear windows - I got the whomp-whomp.

My 05 4runner - If I rolled down either rear window or both at the same time - whomp whomp.  
If I rolled down the the front window (just a little) along with the rear window (on same side) - NO PROBLEM.

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**Author:** ![AshleysMom2009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@AshleysMom2009](https://community.cartalk.com/u/AshleysMom2009)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/15 "2012-03-22T23:33:38Z")

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I used to have a 2003 Jeep Liberty, and I had the same problem. I used to open the passenger side front window and the driver side rear window, and that seemed to alleviate the problem. Now that I have a 2008 HHR (with the rain guards!), I still have the same problem. I use the same technique with the HHR as I used with the Liberty, and it seems to work.

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**Author:** ![UsArmy1stCav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UsArmy1stCav](https://community.cartalk.com/u/UsArmy1stCav)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/16 "2012-03-23T03:29:00Z")

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Up North we call that the Wiffle Ball effect, can be used to torcher the people in the backseat.

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**Author:** ![myrrddin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@myrrddin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/myrrddin)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/17 "2012-03-24T21:24:29Z")

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t-o-r-t-u-r-e

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**Author:** ![Hokiedad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/439d5e/32.png) [@Hokiedad](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Hokiedad)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-whawha-noise-when-the-windows-are-down/71474/18 "2012-04-01T02:14:24Z")

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That was a tortuous spelling of torture.

I agree with lowering both windows on the passenger side by about the same amount. Driver’s side will work but it’s noisy for the driver.
