# The shuddering noen

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-shuddering-noen/19473>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [September 12, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-shuddering-noen/19473 "2008-09-12T02:41:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![semiold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@semiold](https://community.cartalk.com/u/semiold)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-shuddering-noen/19473/1 "2008-09-12T02:41:58Z")

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son has a 04 neon with manual tranny and 54,xxx miles in first gear as you start to release the clutch, about half way out the car gives a 3-4 shake shudder. This almost disappears when rolling forward, say like going down a slight hill…so, what do you think clutch, trans fluid?

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**Author:** ![americar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/americar/32/42_2.png) [@americar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/americar)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-shuddering-noen/19473/2 "2008-09-12T03:19:42Z")

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Sounds like the clutch surface has been hot spotted, making it grabby. This condition is caused by ridding the clutch.

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**Author:** ![researcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@researcher](https://community.cartalk.com/u/researcher)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-shuddering-noen/19473/3 "2008-09-12T17:20:22Z")

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Also a clutch disc that has been contaminated with oil; broken or soft engine mounts; or broken antichatter springs (part of clutch disc) will cause a shudder.

It looks like a clutch replacement is in your future.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-shuddering-noen/19473/4 "2008-09-12T17:27:08Z")

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As the others have said, it sounds like you’ll need a clutch job soon.

The good news is that 54,xxx miles on a clutch for a new driver really isn’t that bad. He could probably improve the longevity with some technique refinements, however.