# The return of Packard? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 10, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982 "2023-12-10T02:09:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/21 "2023-12-11T13:41:41Z")
Would be way down on my list, much higher is a ‘58 Packard Hawk. Just below a 60-61 Chrysler convertible. There might be a few people that would buy a 30s Packard, but I suspect very few. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/22 "2023-12-11T14:52:50Z")
> [@Purebred](#): > > 58 Packard Hawk I did not know there was a Packard version of that Studebaker until just now. I have never seen one in magazines or in person. It would draw a crowd at any Cars and Coffee! ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/23 "2023-12-11T15:08:09Z")
First one I saw was in ‘67, picking up motor mounts for our Lark at the last Studebaker dealer in Mpls/St. Paul, at that time I thought it was ugly, it was in beige which did not help. Now I really like it. Many people deride the P-Hawk referring to the front end as fish mouth. There was one on the cover of Aug 2000 ‘Golf&Travel’ in metallic blue. I think it was in 2004 saw the same blue P-Hawk driving south on I-95 returning from the Turkey Run in Daytona. ![IMG_2364](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/f/ef07d4e7a54843736cb324e8d6429528ca973130.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![PintoKid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pintokid/32/45996_2.png) [@PintoKid](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PintoKid)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/24 "2023-12-11T16:43:12Z")
Want a brand new classic Mustang? It will set you back $250,000 to over $300,000. > **[Revology Cars](https://revologycars.com/)** > > Revology Cars presents the world's first brand-new reproduction classic Mustang. We bring modern technology and classic style together like never before. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/25 "2023-12-11T20:56:32Z")
Yes, I get Revology monthly email, drool over those cars. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/26 "2023-12-12T01:15:56Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > Additionally, the Cord replicas of the '60s were only 80% the size of the original design. It used a Corvair engine. I believe it got one thing wrong in the article, the engine was not turned around, it was simply moved up front. In the Corvair, the engine was behind the rear wheels, in the Cord, it was behind the front wheels. If it had been turned around, the Cord would only drive in reverse. ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/27 "2023-12-12T05:32:40Z")
The GM E-Rod series of engines were marketed to street rod/restomod builders being CARB legal as long as installed in a pre-95 vehicle, Coker tire sells a wide selection of tires for speciality and vintage vehicles. Many are bias ply made by BF Goodrich and others but Radial tires are an option. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/28 "2023-12-23T15:41:23Z")
Here is another magnificent Packard Caribbean for @old_mopar_guy . ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/2/f/2f641c5773827aab33182eb9d4da3b4cdfba367f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/29 "2023-12-23T16:31:08Z")
That is one sexy car. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/30 "2023-12-23T16:34:34Z")
One of my brother’s friends has a nicely-restored '54 Packard sedan, but it is one of the “lesser” models, not a Patrician or a 400. However, he and my sister-in-law were captivated by a ride in that magnificent car. They say that it feels like you are gliding down the road while seated on a very comfortable sofa. ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/31 "2023-12-23T17:16:04Z")
Many of the premium cars of the mid 50’s feel that way, Buick Roadmaster, Lincoln Premiere,Chrysler Imperial and New Yorker among them. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/32 "2024-01-04T19:40:57Z")
Because I know that he really likes them, here is a Packard Caribbean ad for @old_mopar_guy : ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/3/93ea46eff2509b67b57c2d53ee96418d8d7c96b3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/33 "2024-01-05T19:59:08Z")
I love the verbiage of those old ads: “…the car that cannot be approached anywhere for stunning beauty…” “Low and sleek, with the smartness of tomorrow all about it…” I mean, come on, who doesn’t want a car with the smartness of tomorrow all about it? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/34 "2024-01-05T20:05:25Z")
Sometimes, the advertising verbiage is grounded in reality. About their Silver Arrow sedan, Pierce Arrow stated…“It gives you in 1933 the car of 1940". It was also said to be…_The car that couldn’t be ignored_. [One of five built, 1933 Pierce-Arrow Silver Arrow tops Hershey sale | Hemmings](https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2017/10/10/one-of-five-built-1933-pierce-arrow-silver-arrow-tops-hershey-sale) Many years ago, I saw one displayed at the San Diego Auto Museum, and it was spectacular. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/35 "2024-01-05T23:12:02Z")
And Ohio based buddy of mine (a retired automotive engineer) went to see this new Packard prototype. Fiberglass body. No top, no side curtains or windows. Awkward pedal placement. Likely a Buick V8 (not produced in 50 years). A torsion bar short-long arm front suspension and a leaf spring solid axle. Not exactly updated to modern technology as advertised. It looked like a hot-rod build from a C level hot rod shop. He talked to the leaders of the project and found they could not answer the simplist technical questions. But they are looking for investors… ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/36 "2024-01-06T00:13:00Z")
Run away!! ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/37 "2024-01-06T01:09:45Z")
Yeah, either idiots or scammers ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/38 "2024-01-06T13:02:35Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > He talked to the leaders of the project and found they could not answer the simplist technical questions. But they are looking for investors… > [@Mustangman](#): > > Yeah, either idiots or scammers Unfortunately, it may well be the latter. The _Dale_ car scam of the '70s comes to mind. > **[Liz Carmichael and the econo-car con of the 1970s - Hagerty Media](https://www.hagerty.com/media/automotive-history/liz-carmichael-and-the-econo-car-con-of-the-1970s/)** > > Liz Carmichael died in 2004. But her legacy with the Dale econo-car, complicated and controversial, lives on. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/39 "2024-01-06T14:38:31Z")
Dale is a classic tale of BS, manipulation and outright fraud! So is the story of the Vector… at least a few of those got built! Same for the DeLorean… and more than a few got built and still are! ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982/40 "2024-01-06T15:05:35Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Likely a Buick V8 (not produced in 50 years). That’s a funny coincidence-my dad had a ‘52 Packard that he swapped in a Buick ‘nailhead’ V8 in ‘55, ran great. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-return-of-packard/193982.md?page=3)