# The red lebarron misses again **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** chrysler, lebaron\ **Created:** [July 23, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493 "2013-07-23T04:10:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![techniptionfit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@techniptionfit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/techniptionfit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/1 "2013-07-23T04:10:34Z")
92 lebarron conv. 4 cyld. non turbo new cap, rotor, and plugs misses on 3 and 4. when pull plug wires engine doesn’t change. when pull 1 or 2 it dies. when put in gear it chugs and dies. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/2 "2013-07-23T04:23:55Z")
@techniptionfit So cylinder 3 and 4 are not contributing at all Here’s what I would do Compression check Make sure all 4 injectors are at least clicking (if it’s EFI) There’s no way the wires are misrouted or mixed up? Important question Was it running on all 4 before the ignition tune up? ---
**Author:** ![techniptionfit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@techniptionfit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/techniptionfit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/3 "2013-07-23T04:28:56Z")
tbi so that’s not it. i took pictures before hand and the numbers on the cap match the appropriate picture so i dont think they are misrouted. i swapped plug wires (completely) and the problem did not follow the wire. it was not running on all 4 when this all started. and of course its stuck at my dads work. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/4 "2013-07-23T04:41:48Z")
thanks for the added info ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/5 "2013-07-23T04:50:23Z")
There’s a lot of things that could cause this. First thing first though. Are you getting a good visible spark on 3 & 4 that match the quality of the spark on 1 and 2? Harbor Freight has an inexpensive gadget that makes it easy to check for spark. ---
**Author:** ![techniptionfit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@techniptionfit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/techniptionfit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/6 "2013-07-23T05:55:38Z")
The spark will jump out of the boot if held close to metal on 1 and 2 but 3 and 4 not as often ---
**Author:** ![techniptionfit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@techniptionfit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/techniptionfit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/7 "2013-07-23T05:56:16Z")
but that could be a miss observation based on me looking for problems ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/8 "2013-07-23T06:29:28Z")
@techniptionfit If you want to check spark, this is safer and more accurate. If you use it, the spark should be bright blue. [http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Electronic-Ignition-Spark-Tester/\_/R-BK\_7002456\_0361146064](http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Electronic-Ignition-Spark-Tester/_/R-BK_7002456_0361146064) Another suggestion Take off the distributor cap Do you feel any obvious/excessive play in the distributor shaft? A few interesting things to think about 3 and 4 are missing Firing order 1-3-4-2 3 and 4 cylinders are physically next to each other . . . blown head gasket? Worn distributor gear? Worn distributor shaft? You said you had TBI . . . 1 or 2 central injectors? ---
**Author:** ![techniptionfit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@techniptionfit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/techniptionfit)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/9 "2013-07-25T04:35:51Z")
compression cheeck 1=120 2=120 3=110 ish 4=97 ish ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/10 "2013-07-25T06:00:56Z")
@techniptionfit That’s actually on the low side . . . very low, in fact Ideally, the engine would be warmed up before performing the compression test . . . But that wouldn’t make a night and day difference as far as those numbers go Some engines would be misfiring and/or have difficulty starting with that kind of compression Remove the spark plugs Squirt a shot or two of oil into each hole and do a wet compression test Did the numbers go up dramatically? Do you have adjustable valves? ---
**Author:** ![techniptionfit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@techniptionfit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/techniptionfit)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-red-lebarron-misses-again/80493/11 "2013-07-25T07:45:17Z")
i will do this tomorrow