# The reason I believe newer cars last longer than cars 50 years ago did

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 19, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349 "2025-05-19T17:32:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/167 "2025-06-16T19:20:32Z")

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**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/168 "2025-06-17T00:38:19Z")

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Yes it is. Technician Sherwood Cooke and his team are top technicians, however some on here will try to discredit them because they are on tik tok.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/169 "2025-06-17T12:38:05Z")

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[Take A Tour Of A 1990 Honda Accord With Over 1 Million Miles](https://www.motor1.com/news/663183/honda-accord-with-one-million-miles-video/)

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**Author:** ![johnlump\_191311](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@johnlump\_191311](https://community.cartalk.com/u/johnlump_191311)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/170 "2025-06-26T19:59:24Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> > [@johnlump\_191311](#):
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> > Galvanized steel is the best. Home Depot now sells galvanized steel nuts bolts and washers and I only use them around the house and on the car.
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> GALVANIZED steel? You mean STAINLESS steel? HUGE difference. Galvanized steel WILL and DOES rust…just takes a little longer.

Other than the DeLorean and the Cybertruck what other vehicles are made of stainless steel?

It was galvanized steel that let auto bodies live longer.

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**Author:** ![johnlump\_191311](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@johnlump\_191311](https://community.cartalk.com/u/johnlump_191311)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/171 "2025-06-26T20:00:33Z")

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> [@VOLVO-V70](#):
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> > [@Old-Days-Rick](#):
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> > If you don’t agree with someone they are wrong and should go away!
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> The reason I think you should find a forum you like because you are not doing your mental health any good by constantly arguing here. That has to take a toll on your wife and friends.

No it doesn’t. They’re GLAD he’s on the forum.

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**Author:** ![johnlump\_191311](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@johnlump\_191311](https://community.cartalk.com/u/johnlump_191311)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/172 "2025-06-26T20:03:31Z")

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> [@glasspilot](#):
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> > [@bing](#):
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> > Just good solid information, kinda like those guys down south but less commercial and no accent.
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> Boston is “down south”? Ha Ha, I live in North Carolina! Be careful about the accent comments, Minnesota has a hint of an accent!
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> I will be listening to Car Talk reruns as long as they publish them!

Just a bit eh? 🤭

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/173 "2025-06-26T21:34:16Z")

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It’s been a few weeks and lots of water under the bridge, but just to clarify, the radio show that used to run in Minneapolis, and the program in Sioux Falls, and the one out of Georgia or Carolina, tended to provide good solid repair and diagnostic information. I found the boys in Boston did a lot of joking and slap stick but less information. But that’s my free opinion. Everyone has one.

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**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/174 "2025-06-27T00:12:39Z")

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I agee Bing, Cartalk was mainly a comedy show with some car advice. The guys liked to clown around and it was a very entertaining show for many and I did learn things from the show.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/175 "2025-06-27T15:16:48Z")

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> [@johnlump\_191311](#):
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> Other than the DeLorean and the Cybertruck what other vehicles are made of stainless steel?

The statement I was commenting on was about galvanized BOLTS - NOT cars. Home Depot has been carrying galvanized bolts for DECADES. Stainless - maybe 15-20 years.

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> [@johnlump\_191311](#):
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> It was galvanized steel that let auto bodies live longer.

That’s only part of the reason. My alma mater (Syracuse University) - Also the area I grew up in was asked to do a study by the Big-3 on car rust since Syracuse is the snowiest in the US and in the heart of the rust belt. Auto manufacturers started using thinner steel to safe on weight to meet Cafe’ numbers and when they did vehicles started rusting out faster. SU’s study showed that the BIGGEST factor is SHELVES. These are parts in the body where water/dirt/salt can pool. Eliminating these in the manufacturing save vehicles from rusting. After car assembly - Zinc Oxide dipping the body was the second-best solution. Third was factory applied rust prohibitor (Aftermarket can be just as good if done correctly). Even with all these advancements drive in central NY or upper Michigan and you’ll still find vehicles that rust out, although no where nearly as often or as soon.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/176 "2025-06-27T16:36:38Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> Syracuse is the snowiest in the US

This pic was taken just North of Syracuse, in Oswego County, on February 3, 1966. It shows the highway superintendent with his 1965 Buick.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/3/631c025265c666908804b56d965df035ae28a17f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/177 "2025-06-27T17:56:23Z")

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Must have been about 1978 coming through vesta, Mn after a storm. The road was open but they only had one lane open and snow six or eight feet high. Two year old in the car, rwd, radials, but made it through. I still think about how stupid that was but visiting in laws was a must.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/178 "2025-06-28T13:09:59Z")

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You made me recall a time in the 60s we were coming back from visiting relatives in the LaCrosse area during a huge snowstorm. My job was to swim through the drifts on the side of the road to knock snow off the road signs so we could be sure we were on the right roads home. My dad was ticked off because he kept pestering my mom that we had to leave. Then she slept most of the way home while the rest of us white knuckled it…

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/179 "2025-06-28T14:47:44Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> This pic was taken just North of Syracuse, in Oswego County, on February 3, 1966. It shows the highway superintendent with his 1965 Buick

Probably in the Tug Hill region. Syracuse is the snowiest CITY, but little towns north of Syracuse which are right in the middle of the lake effect area are much worse. The Tug Hill plateau which is north and a little east of Syracuse is the snowiest region east of the Rockies. It’s a plateau with height as 2,000 feet directly west of Lake Ontario (the source of the lake effect snow). Air systems mainly move from west to east. As the air moves across Lake Ontario it picks up moisture and then when it hits the plateau elevations it dumps in as snow. Some towns in that region AVERAGE over 250" of snow. There are towns that have had OVER 500" in a year.

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**Author:** ![glasspilot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/glasspilot/32/27886_2.png) [@glasspilot](https://community.cartalk.com/u/glasspilot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/180 "2025-06-30T11:25:51Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> Probably in the Tug Hill region. Syracuse is the snowiest CITY, but little towns north of Syracuse which are right in the middle of the lake effect area are much worse. The Tug Hill plateau which is north and a little east of Syracuse is the snowiest region east of the Rockies. It’s a plateau with height as 2,000 feet directly west of Lake Onterio (the source of the lake effect snow). Air systems mainly move from west to east. As the air moves across Lake Onterio it picks up moisture and then when it hits the plateau elevations it dumps in as snow. Some towns in that region AVERAGE over 250" of snow. There are towns that have had OVER 500" in a year.

That’s also known as “The north country”. My Dad grew up there, in a town called Croghan. Near New Breman. The largest town up there is Lowville. By the way the spelling is “Lake Ontario”. no “e”.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/181 "2025-06-30T13:31:48Z")

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> [@glasspilot](#):
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> That’s also known as “The north country”. My Dad grew up there, in a town called Croghan. Near New Breman. The largest town up there is Lowville. By the way the spelling is “Lake Ontario”. no “e”.

I fixed it…Spell checker did me wrong again.

I dated a girl in college who lived up there. Drove up to visit here a few times in the summer. IMPOSSIBLE to visit her in during the winter. Could never predict the lake effect snow and how many days I’d be stuck up there.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/182 "2025-06-30T15:29:52Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> > [@glasspilot](#):
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> > By the way the spelling is “Lake Ontario”. _ **no “e”** _.
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> I fixed it…Spell checker did me wrong again.
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> I dated a girl in college who lived up there. Drove up to visit _ **here** _ a few times in the summer. IMPOSSIBLE to visit her in during the winter. Could never predict the lake effect snow and how many days I’d be stuck up there.

Still no “e”,… Sorry, couldn’t pass it up… 🫣

Much respect… 😃

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/183 "2025-06-30T16:23:05Z")

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Spellcheck misspelled the word, no doubt. I always edit my posts to make sure that Spellcheck didn’t change my words in error. I also need to check for spelling errors it misses. **great application**.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/184 "2025-06-30T17:00:27Z")

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Yeah, I am defiantly the last one on here that should point out a spelling oops… lol

I have misspelt words so bad that when I went back to correct my terrible spelling that I couldn’t even figure it out and have to rewrite the sentence…

I end up googling my misspelt words cause spell check has no clue what I am trying to spell sometimes, but google does a better job at it…

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**Author:** ![glasspilot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/glasspilot/32/27886_2.png) [@glasspilot](https://community.cartalk.com/u/glasspilot)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 11:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/185 "2025-07-01T11:37:30Z")

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Before I click “send” on a text or email or post I read it through. I know most people don’t do that, and then blame it on “spellcheck”. These young kids are so fast on the phone keyboard I don’t see how it is legible when they’re done, but it usually is!

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-reason-i-believe-newer-cars-last-longer-than-cars-50-years-ago-did/200349/186 "2025-07-01T12:32:50Z")

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> Spellcheck misspelled the word, no doubt. I always edit my posts to make sure that Spellcheck didn’t change my words in error.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/0/d0815de91e37638a4cc7b2ff78919ea858e1d852.jpeg)

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