# The REAL-WORLD answer for 1000 $1s in 10 Envelopes --- it ain't a power of two, geeks!

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**Created:** [January 28, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002 "2013-01-28T08:36:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![RudyB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@RudyB](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RudyB)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/1 "2013-01-28T08:36:27Z")

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Guys, I did not answer your puzzler with $1000 and 10 envelopes because I thought the solution was **too easy**. But now I realize **you do not know it**. Yeah, you found your solution with power of two, but that just proves you are geeks from MIT.

OK, have you heard of 200 bills? The Euro has them, and before the Euro many countries had theirs. Here is the **REAL-WORLD solution** that we have used since elementary school. Six bills: 500, 200, 200, 50, 20, 20; and four coins: 5, 2, 2, 1. Here you go, you can make these into your 10 envelopes. We do this with the cents as well: 50, 20, 20, 5, 2, 2, 1 cents. This is the REAL WORLD outside the USA. We think, dudes! :-)))

Sincerely  
Rudy (prof. of Math…)  
Czech Republic

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**Author:** ![David\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@David\_L](https://community.cartalk.com/u/David_L)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/2 "2013-01-28T20:40:40Z")

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In the REAL WORLD, we read the question. (Does that make me a geek?) The question specifically says 1,000 $1 bills, not tens, fifties or anything else. Make sure you are correct before slamming a whole country. In the USA the Math Profs also learn to read!

David L

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/3 "2013-01-28T20:49:06Z")

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@RudyB - Yep, you flunked the test, you answered the wrong question. You might be right if the question was “What is the minimum number of bills needed to pay all amounts from $1 to $1,000.”

F

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**Author:** ![NVSmythe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NVSmythe](https://community.cartalk.com/u/NVSmythe)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/4 "2013-01-29T02:19:37Z")

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Show me how to make $11 with your solution? Or $101?

In the USA, our math has to add up… Prof.

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**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/5 "2013-01-29T02:24:47Z")

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@RubyB - Here in the unreal world, don’t need no stinkin’ degree in math to deal with money. We learn that around second grade. Joke’s on you, Hoss…

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 5:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/6 "2013-02-01T05:33:44Z")

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Getting back to the actual problem, I think everyone agrees that Ray is correct that that distribution he gave will work, but I wonder it it is unique? Are there are other ways of distributing the 1000 bills into 10 envelopes that will meet the objective?

I think if there were 1023 bills, there is no other way. But there may be with 1000 bills.

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**Author:** ![AETA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AETA](https://community.cartalk.com/u/AETA)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/7 "2013-02-05T00:12:19Z")

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Is it really unique? Instead of the given answer of

489, 256, 128, 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, and 1,

How about:

500, 250, 125, 62, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, and 1?

The smallest six are still powers of two, allowing any value from $0 to $63, adding the next envelope of $62 gives $0 to $125, then adding $125 gives $0 to $250, adding $250 and then $500 extends the range to $1000.

The second solution has more “round” numbers while still, I think, meeting the requirements.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/8 "2013-02-05T03:01:43Z")

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@AETA - I think you’re correct, there are other combinations that would fit in the 10 evelopes that would allow counting to $1,000. But 10 envelopes is the minimun number needed.

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**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/9 "2013-02-05T06:25:19Z")

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I’ll just bet that RudyB is a really “wild and crazy guy.”

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**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/10 "2013-02-05T20:48:03Z")

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I bet so too.  
After all, who in his right mind in this day and age of debit cards and electronic banking transactions, would walk around with several envelopes with large amounts of cash in them?

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/11 "2013-02-06T17:08:26Z")

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@asecular…And you know this HOW???

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-real-world-answer-for-1000-1s-in-10-envelopes-it-aint-a-power-of-two-geeks/77002/12 "2013-02-07T06:09:15Z")

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@AETA, good post. You are right, the answer proffered-up by theCar Talk brothers is not the only answer. Good on you for discovering a second one.
