# The Fisker Karma returns

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643 "2018-10-27T21:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643/1 "2018-10-27T21:04:59Z")

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… under a new name:

> **[Karma Revero](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_Revero)**
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> The Karma Revero is a premium plug-in hybrid luxury sports sedan manufactured by Karma Automotive. It is a revamped version of the Fisker Karma car. The first of the new production, for model year 2017, was released in September 2016.
> The Revero predecessor was first introduced by Fisker Automotive as the Karma in 2012. It was the only model produced by Fisker before it went out of business in 2013. The tooling for the Fisker Karma was bought by Wanxiang in 2014. The tooling was moved from the f...

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643/2 "2018-10-27T23:46:53Z")

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Nice looking car, but only a three hundred mile total range, 50 mile electric only!

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643/3 "2018-10-28T13:14:30Z")

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It reminds me of the Cadillac ELR, a hybrid coupe that was build for three years. Except that the Revero MSRP is twice that of the ELR. I’m not enthusiastic about the Karma’s prospects.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643/4 "2018-10-28T13:18:16Z")

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The original Karma was generally considered an expensive, good looking but crap driving, poor quality car. What’s changed on the re-born model to reverse that failure?

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/the-fisker-karma-returns/127643/5 "2018-10-29T12:36:13Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> The original Karma was generally considered an expensive, good looking but crap driving, poor quality car.

The feature of the original Karma that I found most… puzzling… was the use of old, sunken trees reclaimed from under lakes or rivers for the interior wood trim. Yes, I know that this is ecologically-sound, but would anyone really choose a car because of that feature? Wouldn’t at least 99% of the public prefer a better-performing car with longer battery range?

And, I have **never** seen one of the original Fiskers on the road. My neck of the woods has a very large number of Maserati sedans, a huge number of Porsches, the occasional Ferrari, and some Bentleys. There are at least 4 Rolls-Royces being driven around town, but I have yet to see even one Fisker!