# Tesla Owners

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 22, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790 "2016-09-22T21:57:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/1 "2016-09-22T21:57:48Z")

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…wake up to a major software upgrade, which was downloaded to their cars overnight:

> **[Tesla Drivers Wake Up to a Serious Upgrade](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-09-22/tesla-drivers-wake-up-to-a-serious-upgrade?cmpid=BBD092216_BIZ)**
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> It’s the biggest software overhaul yet, and it’s not just about Autopilot. We test it out on the streets of New York.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/2 "2016-09-22T22:05:41Z")

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Though I do not love everything being computerized a global overnight fix is sure an advantage to taking it to the dealer for reprogramming or updates.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/3 "2016-09-22T23:00:06Z")

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I guess I would be a little irritated. I came down to the computer this morning and rather than firing up, it went into a major update courtesy of Microsoft. I really just wanted to check email and a few things but it took almost two hours to finish. I think the tell-tale though is that the guy is driving through New York. Yeah you probably want it there but most of us aren’t there and I thought no one owned cars there anymore anyway.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/4 "2016-09-22T23:07:22Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> I thought no one owned cars there anymore anyway

…then why are streets lined–bumper-to-bumper–with parked cars, during the overnight hours?  
Trust me, a LOT of New Yorkers–_in all 5 boroughs_–still own cars.

What’s that?  
You don’t trust me?  
And yet, when a certain orange spray-tanned candidate repeatedly says “Trust me”, you somehow manage to believe all of his factually **UN** supported statements.

Hmmmm…  
😲

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/5 "2016-09-22T23:36:47Z")

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Hopefully it is not like windows, please wait You cannot drive, we are updating, or I need a computer on 24/7 and windows has shut down the computer for updates and takes it offline until one can logon again.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/6 "2016-09-23T01:10:43Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> I guess I would be a little irritated. I came down to the computer this morning and rather than firing up, it went into a major update courtesy of Microsoft

You have you system setup wrong. You can set it up so it’ll only upgrade when you say it’s ok to do so. Microsoft doesn’t force you to upgrade.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/7 "2016-09-23T02:56:59Z")

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Yeah I trust you guys but Dave handles my computer stuff. I won’t touch it. It’s supposed to update over night.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/8 "2016-09-23T03:03:51Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Trust me, a LOT of New Yorkers–in all 5 boroughs–still own cars

And a lot of newyorkers don’t own cars. I have at least 5 adult cousins in NYC who don’t have a drivers license let alone a car.

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**Author:** ![galant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/77aa72/32.png) [@galant](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galant)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/9 "2016-09-23T06:17:33Z")

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Seems like windows 10 forces the upgrades. It is annoying but I have also paid a decent price with not upgrading my Vista in the past which made it pretty dysfunctional until I had to reinstall the whole thing and wait through 300+ updates.  
But, yea, I agree, if I walked to my car in the morning and it went into upgrade mode with the screen saying “Don’t turn your car off, your update would be done shortly”, I would be pretty ticked.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 11:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/10 "2016-09-23T11:47:57Z")

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Windows 10 does NOT force an upgrade.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/11 "2016-09-23T12:04:05Z")

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Of course a lot of New Yorkers don’t own cars, but–once again–I have to point out that the curbs are lined, bumper-to-bumper with parked cars during the overnight hours in all five boroughs.  
Surely the reality that it is **extremely** difficult to find a parking space in NYC at all hours of the day and the night can’t be due only to tourists and visiting out-of-towners.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/12 "2016-09-23T18:30:09Z")

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Mike I think we’ve had this conversation before but yeah they do. I had 8.1 and always got the little message to upgrade to 10. I always said no. After some months of this, one evening I came down to the computer and I was locked out while I was being upgraded to 10. Of course free. Then two days ago did the same thing with updates. I think ole Microsoft is getting much more aggressive or maybe Billy is running out of money or something.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/13 "2016-09-23T18:35:37Z")

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We have at least 40 PCs used for testing. Many have Windows 10 and every other operating system down to NT. We have 3 systems setup for automatic updates. All others only get updated when we allow it. So I’m quite confident in saying Microsoft does NOT do any unwanted updates.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/14 "2016-09-23T18:39:34Z")

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Maybe I shouldn’t have smarted off to that lady that called that said she was from Microsoft. I told her she was a scammer and should be ashamed of herself. Maybe I got on the list to be watched.

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/15 "2016-09-23T18:47:12Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> I came down to the computer this morning and rather than firing up, it went into a major update courtesy of Microsoft.

Two notes on that:

-You can go into your Windows settings to change how updates are installed. I have my Windows 7 computer setup to notify me about updates, but I install them manually. I have my Windows 10 computer setup to download and stall updates in the background (because that is the least intrusive option), and then I choose when to reboot, so it doesn’t reboot automatically at an inconvenient time. Although the default settings are to download and install updates automatically, you don’t have to leave your settings that way.

-Depending on the version of windows you’re using, you can usually keep working while updates are being downloaded and installed - except for the part of the installation that happens during the reboot.

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/16 "2016-09-23T18:48:42Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> Windows 10 does NOT force an upgrade.

Actually it does, at least the student version of Windows 10 it does. On my Windows 10 machine, I have two options:

-Automatically install updates and automatically reboot.

-Automatically install updates and let me choose when to reboot.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/17 "2016-09-23T18:53:49Z")

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> **[Stop Windows 10 from automatically updating your PC](https://www.cnet.com/how-to/stop-windows-10-from-automatically-updating-your-pc/)**
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> One of Windows 10's "features" is automatic OS updates. Here's how to avoid them.

As a general rule, an up-to-date operating system is a secure operating system, and some people are terrible at updating their operating systems.

That’s probably why Microsoft has – controversially – decided to make Windows 10 an automatically-updating OS. Windows 10 automatically checks for, downloads and installs new updates to your PC – whether you like it or not.

If you’re running a professional version of Windows 10 (Professional, Enterprise or Education), you actually can disable automatic updates using the Group Policy editor. But if you – like most people – are using Windows 10 Home, you’ll need to use workarounds to stave off Windows 10’s aggressive automatic updates.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/18 "2016-09-23T18:55:56Z")

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By default the home or student version may come standard to automatically update. The easiest way to stop this is to shut down the service and prevent it from auto starting during startup

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/19 "2016-09-23T19:01:47Z")

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Actually, don’t mind that Windows 10 downloads and installs the updates in the background, and now that I’ve changed my settings, it doesn’t reboot while I’m in the middle of using it.

My Windows 10 machine is the fastest computer I’ve ever owned and my download speeds are usually near 90 Kbps, so I don’t notice while the update is going on. On older computers, the downloading and installation of updates in the background aren’t supposed to slow down your computer, but they usually do anyway.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/tesla-owners/95790/20 "2016-09-23T19:12:36Z")

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I agree. For my home system I just it do its thing. That way the latest and greatest updates are on.

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