# Stalls when put in gear or ac switched on

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** passport, honda\
**Created:** [August 15, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736 "2020-08-15T20:39:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/1 "2020-08-15T20:39:35Z")

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2000 Passport 3.2L v6

Stalls when it is put in gear or whenever the ac is switched on. If you rev it up then switch the ac on it will stay on as long as you keep your foot on the gas.

The items below have already been changed and we are out of ideas, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Fuel pump  
Fuel filter  
Fuel pressure regulator  
Gas pedal position sensor  
Throttle body position sensor  
Oil pressure sending unit  
Ignition switch  
MAP sensor  
Spark plugs  
Oil and filter

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/2 "2020-08-15T20:42:28Z")

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It sounds like somebody has been “throwing parts” at the problem, rather than properly diagnosing it. Was this work done by a professional mechanic?

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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/3 "2020-08-15T20:46:45Z")

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Nah. It’s not a daily driver for anyone so just changing the parts out when there is time.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/4 "2020-08-15T20:48:04Z")

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> [@dhall27](#):
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> just changing the parts out when there is time.

Unless you are getting those parts “for free”, you are ultimately paying more than you would if the problem was properly diagnosed.

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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/5 "2020-08-15T20:51:15Z")

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Eh. Taking it somewhere doesn’t teach me anything.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/6 "2020-08-15T20:51:44Z")

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Have you tried cleaning the electronic throttle body?

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/5/0/50b554ca658134c53b731bc9d77212ee1c8ee45a.png)

Tester

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**Author:** ![oldnotdeadyet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a6a055/32.png) [@oldnotdeadyet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldnotdeadyet)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/7 "2020-08-15T20:54:11Z")

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As far as the AC goes…is it just a matter of the idle speed too low, and things work fine when you give it a little gas?  
As far as “stalls when put in gear”…if you have an automatic, a low idle speed could again cause a stall.  
Do you think idle speed is the real culprit?

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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/9 "2020-08-15T21:00:46Z")

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Some sort of idle control issue yes. I am not sure where to find detailed system descriptions

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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/10 "2020-08-15T21:01:23Z")

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Yeah I have cleaned it a good bit

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/11 "2020-08-15T21:03:55Z")

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The computer controls the engine idle depending on the load imposed on the engine by adjusting the electronic throttle body.

Tester

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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/12 "2020-08-15T21:09:58Z")

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There was a few times where it didn’t start and there was a noise from that area. It’s where I was leaning.

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**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/13 "2020-08-16T00:55:12Z")

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> [@dhall27](#):
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> Taking it somewhere doesn’t teach me anything.

Neither does changing parts at random.  
All those sensors you’ve changed so far could have been tested with a voltmeter.  
The symptoms rule out most of that list anyway.  
Perhaps you should either befriend an independent mechanic who will let you watch him/her troubleshoot, or take some automotive repair classes.

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**Author:** ![dhall27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@dhall27](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhall27)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/14 "2020-08-16T11:44:11Z")

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I have actually learned a lot reading about and changing parts out. You understand that some people enjoy that right? I have checked a few sensors with the multimeter after changing one or two out and basically only changed the others because it was either spitting a code or I didn’t have something to put a vacuum on it and it was $8 at pull a part.

Thanks for your input. You’ve been a big help.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/stalls-when-put-in-gear-or-ac-switched-on/168736/15 "2020-08-16T14:31:51Z")

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Generally speaking . . . a sensor is not something I would get at pick-a-part

Sheet metal, interior door panels, center consoles, mirrors . . . those are all a no-brainer

There’s no way I would get, say, an oxygen sensor or crankshaft position sensor at pick-a-part
