# Spare tire 60 PSI

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** rav4, toyota\
**Created:** [October 27, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257 "2021-10-27T22:25:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/21 "2021-10-28T02:34:18Z")

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> [@Barkydog](#):
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> Maybe the salesman lied, said it was a full size spare.

How would the salesperson know? If he lifted the floor panel in the cargo area you would have both seen the compact spare tire. He was probably reading the features listed on the used car label, those are computer generated from the VIN and trim level.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/22 "2021-10-28T02:37:29Z")

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New car, don’t have the sheet, oh well, better than no spare at all like some new cars.

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**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/23 "2021-10-28T13:50:28Z")

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Is the spare stamped 225/65R17 or T165/80R17?

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/24 "2021-10-28T13:54:12Z")

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Since it says ‘Inflate to 60 psi’ on the side, it’s a compact spare.

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**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/25 "2021-10-28T20:07:34Z")

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my 2019 rav 4 spare needs 60psi, and it is monitored by the TPMS. It was low a week after we bought it, lol

you also have to remove the spare to check/add air. the valve stem is on the bottom (Inside) of the wheel as it sits in the truck area.

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/26 "2021-10-29T14:37:50Z")

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The T type spare in my Lincoln also has a spec of 60 PSI. Not a bad idea to check it now and then rather than find out during an emergency that it’s down to 20…

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**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/27 "2021-10-29T14:44:54Z")

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I fill my compact spare to 65 PSI. If it’s still high when I actually need it, I can easily let out the extra air when putting the tire on.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/28 "2026-05-17T01:29:58Z")

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The reason I am reviving this ‘ancient’ post is because, after reading the orig. post and all the comments, I have determined that the answer as to what kind of spare tire this is is documented all over the vehicle (on the door pillar, in the manual, and on the spare itself).

Looking at the documentation quoted from the owners manual:

 ![IMG6603](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/b/0/b070caebee305d8c62fe2b6d721825ed04d29454.jpeg)

It states clearly a different tire size for one of the tires. And hence, a different cold pressure setting. That info alone should imply that it is for a spare/(“T”)emp-use tire. (Hence the “T”)

Hundreds, if not thousands, of “What pressure should my (daily or spare) tires be”-type forum inquiries could be answered if people took the time to open their drivers’ door, hood, fuel or charging port lid, trunk lid, or owners manual for the information.

I don’t mean to come off as an “educated, elitist s n o b”, but manufacturers of cars, motorcycles, light and commercial trucks, motor coaches, and so forth, have provided tire pressure documentation in at least one or two locations on their products, or in accompanying literature, for at least 70 years.

It’s only since the 1990s that such documentation: placards, manual literature, and tire sidewalls, has become legislated and more or less standardized in form and wording.

Before jumping in and driving off in one’s dream machine, one should take just 3-6 minutes examining door frame, hood, or gas lid placards, for the correct cold tire pressures.

Imagine the space saved on forum servers by how many fewer “what is my tire pressure” posts there would be?

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 2:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/29 "2026-05-17T02:46:50Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> I have determined that the answer as to what kind of spare tire this is is documented all over the vehicle (on the door pillar, in the manual, and on the spare itself).

If the vehicle owner adds a full-size spare tire, should the door placard be revised?  
The placard will only show how the vehicle was originally equipped, and the owner’s manual can show both: compact spare, full size spare also “If equipped” (no spare).

Of course, the information is on the tire, but someone can look directly at narrow tire with shallow tread labeled “Temporary Spare Tire” and believe it is a standard use tire.

BTW; the OP’s issue was not with the spare tire, it was the warning light.

> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> Imagine the space saved on forum servers by how many fewer “what is my tire pressure” posts there would be?

Imagine the space saved if someone didn’t grumble about tire pressure every day.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/30 "2026-05-17T03:00:52Z")

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> [@Nevada\_545](#):
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> Imagine the space saved if someone  
> didn’t grumble about tire pressure every day.

It is perhaps one of the most, if not the most, misunderstood and thus neglected concepts of vehicle maintenance out there.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 3:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/31 "2026-05-17T03:06:48Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> It is perhaps one of the most, if not the most, misunderstood and thus neglected concepts of vehicle maintenance out there.

According to you. Why do you keep wasting your time dragging up old threads just to rant about tire pressure ?

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 3:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/32 "2026-05-17T03:07:58Z")

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> [@VOLVO-V70](#):
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> Why do you keep wasting your time dragging up old threads just to rant about tire pressure ?

The answer? It’s in the comment you just responded to.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 11:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/33 "2026-05-17T11:42:37Z")

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> [@VOLVO-V70](#):
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> Why do you keep wasting your time dragging up old threads just to rant about tire pressure ?

It’s obviously an obsession.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/34 "2026-05-17T14:19:35Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> orig. post and all the comments

You missed the part indicating that the salesman likely lied. Why lie about something like that I can not guess. Likely the window sticker listing standard feature and options would have been clear it was not a full size spare. Though Barkydog said it did not have a window sticker, I thought that was required. Barkydog never came back to tell us what the service department found as the problem.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/35 "2026-05-17T19:18:14Z")

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The general anwer is dint rely on anything the sales person says. When I asked if the old Acura power steering fluid was ok for the new one, he did not know the new one was electric. No likely to know about the spare.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/36 "2026-05-18T15:33:14Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> You missed the part indicating that the salesman likely lied. Why lie about something like that I can not guess.

Sometimes their lies are simply the result of ignorance, or perhaps the inability to understand science. The long-term forum members may recall the following incident, involving my brother and SIL, sometime back in the '90s:

They were shopping for a new car, and at one showroom, the specimen on the showroom floor had the fairly-new Traction Control feature. My brother decided to “test” the salesman by trying to act naive, and by asking “What happens when I push the traction control button?”. The salesman’s answer was, “Oh, that automatically makes the car heavier”.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/1/d1b883dda54817580f438b0a1c7dad38c728e496.gif)

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/37 "2026-05-18T15:34:33Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> My brother decided to “test” the salesman by trying to act naive, and by asking “What happens when I push the traction control button?”. The salesman’s answer was, “Oh, that automatically makes the car heavier”.

And that it is why they work in sales!

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/38 "2026-05-18T17:50:38Z")

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One day they are selling refrigerators, next day they are selling cars.

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**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/39 "2026-05-18T19:19:31Z")

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I used to show u0 car salesman helping mom shop, but to be fair I’d been studying the specs and features looking for the trim with what she really needed and wanted. One guy didn’t know the car had telescoping steering wheel.

The salesman who put both feet in his mouth while remaining upright asked a valid question but it came across to both of us as “can’t you make up your mind woman?” I stood 10ft back and let her deal with him. Obviously we weren’t buying a car from him.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2026, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/spare-tire-60-psi/180257/40 "2026-05-18T19:29:17Z")

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> [@wolyrobb](#):
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> Obviously we weren’t buying a car from him.

Ditto in the case of the salesman who my brother and SIL dealt with. My brother was able to restrain his laughter after hearing how that car was apparently able to defy the laws of physics, but my SIL couldn’t stop giggling, so they decided that it was best to leave.

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