# Some Americans are thinking of giving up driving b/c it costs too much

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 22, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395 "2024-07-22T19:15:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hugemoth\_144444](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ee7513/32.png) [@Hugemoth\_144444](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Hugemoth_144444)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/41 "2024-07-24T09:35:13Z")

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Where I live there is no practical option to driving a car. No public transportation, and snow and ice for 4 months every year. I think scooter cars like the Isetta and Messerschmitt need to make a comeback.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/42 "2024-07-24T11:57:21Z")

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> [@Hugemoth\_144444](#):
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> scooter cars

Here’s a link to several Low Speed Vehicles (LSVs) that are street legal and mostly currently sold in the US.

[https://electrek.co/2023/06/09/best-street-legal-electric-micro-cars-nevs-and-lsvs-you-can-buy-in-the-us/](https://electrek.co/2023/06/09/best-street-legal-electric-micro-cars-nevs-and-lsvs-you-can-buy-in-the-us/)

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**Author:** ![Hugemoth\_144444](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ee7513/32.png) [@Hugemoth\_144444](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Hugemoth_144444)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/44 "2024-07-24T13:58:57Z")

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Electric is probably fine for many uses but they’re pretty expensive and very low speed. A 3 wheeled vehicle is considered a motorcycle in the state where I live so is cheaper to license and insure, plus it doesn’t have to meet all the safety and emission standards for cars. I would like a tadpole 3 wheeler with a gas engine, a heater and AC. The old Messerschmitt 200cc could do almost 70 mph. If there was something similar for around $5k new I think it would sell.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/45 "2024-07-24T14:05:54Z")

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Just the ‘car’ for you:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/e/1e9ae305183a80761cb204efe52c48a587598763.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/46 "2024-07-24T16:58:00Z")

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Good job 1st post and already flagged enough to get it hidden. BRAVO !

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/47 "2024-07-24T18:09:03Z")

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LSVs are not licensed as standard automobiles and don’t have to meet the usual safety standards for registration. One look at any of them shows that they are only meant for low speed use. My wife could have used one to commute the 2 miles to work in our neighborhood but I never could have commute with a LSV. They would be good for shopping trips to local stores though.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/48 "2024-07-24T20:30:24Z")

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> [@Hugemoth\_144444](#):
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> I would like a tadpole 3 wheeler with a gas engine, a heater and AC. The old Messerschmitt 200cc could do almost 70 mph. If there was something similar for around $5k new I think it would sell.

A new Honda scooter with 157 cc engine is $5000. A three wheeled car with a proper cabin and air conditioning would be close to $20,000.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/49 "2024-07-24T21:08:11Z")

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If you really want or need a little puddle jumper, look at an atv. On outdoors with the Morgan’s he bought a nice 4 seater with ac and heat. I would not think a three wheeler anything is safe.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/50 "2024-07-24T22:07:50Z")

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I wish we had the option of viewing a flagged post.

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**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/51 "2024-07-24T22:11:46Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> I wish we had the option of viewing a flagged post.

I flagged it, it was some spam for truck driving school with links.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/52 "2024-07-24T22:13:41Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> I would not think a three wheeler anything is safe.

The Slingshot appears to be fairly safe. But I would rather have a convertible with AC.

 ![IMG_2480](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/9/e923feb2c0c5f956b9539cd314ec82b879492fe5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/53 "2024-07-24T22:14:47Z")

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Thank you. Yep, spam, other than the kind you eat, should be flagged.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/54 "2024-07-24T22:21:11Z")

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What’s the definition of “spam”? How would you determine if a post is spam or not? I wouldn’t want to see posts removed just b/c someone says they are spam, but the actual reason is that they want to annoy the poster.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/55 "2024-07-24T22:23:55Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> What’s the definition of “spam”?

Have you never heard of Google and I doubt anyone is Flagging a post as Spam that is not Spam.

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**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/56 "2024-07-24T22:26:57Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> What’s the definition of “spam”? How would you determine if a post is spam or not?

 ![Capture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/3/4/34d3bed8e399b13263de0218b8af2637a1fe23a5.jpeg)

Staff will look at the flagged post and either delete it or decide it’s OK and remove the flag.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/57 "2024-07-24T22:36:20Z")

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What’s your opinion? Would a post asking if it is advisable to pro-actively replace flexible brake hoses be spam? Would that be considered an advertisement for companies that make or sell flexible brake hoses?

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**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/58 "2024-07-24T22:46:40Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> Would a post asking if it is advisable to pro-actively replace flexible brake hoses be spam?

No, and neither would someone posting links to a recommended replacement part.

But the post I flagged was a first time poster with something to do with truck driving school with links to their site, nothing to do with the topic.

And the staff here will decide if the post should be deleted or if it’s ok and remove the flag and make it visible to everybody.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/59 "2024-07-24T23:02:29Z")

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I googled the link (copy and pasted from OPs profile) and it was about being the best oil change place for 18 wheelers… it has nothing to do this thread or forum… It was an advertisement - SPAM…

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/60 "2024-07-24T23:22:00Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> What’s your opinion? Would a post asking if it is advisable to pro-actively replace flexible brake hoses be spam?

If it asked as a question for discussion then no , but if a link to a business that sells brake lines is included then it will most likely get Flagged as Spam.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/some-americans-are-thinking-of-giving-up-driving-b-c-it-costs-too-much/195395/61 "2024-07-24T23:33:45Z")

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> [@VOLVO-V70](#):
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> but if a link to a business that sells brake lines is included then it will most likely

That is a yes or no possibility. How many times are NAPA, RockAuto, or Tirerack mentioned.

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