# Saturn L200 just died **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** l\ **Created:** [September 15, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818 "2017-09-15T19:23:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/1 "2017-09-15T19:23:14Z")
I have a Saturn l200, 2002, I was driving home from work and it just quit. It still turns over. I changed the PCM and CPS. still nothing. Turns like it has no compression but I have not checked that. I thought maybe o2 sensors because of code 420 but it doesn’t even start so them or the cat should at least let it start after cool down which it will not. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/2 "2017-09-15T19:26:03Z")
the 4cyl has a timing chain? not sure if it is a belt ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/3 "2017-09-15T19:32:08Z")
What’s a CPS? Tester ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/4 "2017-09-15T19:48:46Z")
Crankshaft Position Sensor ? ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/5 "2017-09-15T19:51:26Z")
Or Camshaft Position Sensor? Camshaft Position Sensor = CMP Crankshaft Position Sensor = CKP Tester ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/6 "2017-09-15T20:01:56Z")
Crank position sensor and it has a timing chain not a belt ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/7 "2017-09-15T20:09:51Z")
If the engine spins over faster than normal when trying to start it, it probably needs a new timing chain set. [https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4571763&cc=1431616&jsn=369&jsn=369](https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4571763&cc=1431616&jsn=369&jsn=369) Tester ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/8 "2017-09-15T20:30:15Z")
Just had a new chain a cooler years ago don’t think that’s it…any other ideas ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/9 "2017-09-15T20:59:44Z")
Check it anyway. Sometimes you just get bitten by Murphy’s Law and things that shouldn’t break for a long time do. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/10 "2017-09-15T21:52:19Z")
Check for compression, if none timing chain related, first guess. ---
**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/11 "2017-09-15T21:52:57Z")
did you just happen to have a PCM laying around? What led you to think of that first? Does the PCM need to be programmed to your car before it will work? ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/12 "2017-09-15T22:28:48Z")
So much for that chain is very loose …I believe you were correct ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/13 "2017-09-15T22:30:11Z")
Yes chain is loose so that’s probally it ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/14 "2017-09-15T22:33:57Z")
Search on line, and see if the engine is an interference engine or not. This will determine if it’s worth fixing. Tester ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/15 "2017-09-15T22:38:25Z")
Our Daughters timing chain puked, 115k miles, cost 1200 to fix, it is running fine, I think heads were involved, evidently some things failed but my go to guy, said he could not tell which went first. ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/16 "2017-09-15T23:01:23Z")
Should just be able to put a new chain and adjusters in…not that big of deal unless something else craps out ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/17 "2017-09-15T23:06:54Z")
Well? If it’s an interference engine, the head will have to be removed to replace any bent valves. Among other things. So, find out if it’s an interference engine. Tester ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/18 "2017-09-26T23:16:23Z")
No it’s not interference engine looking to change it to or tomorrow will let you know how it goes ---
**Author:** ![kafehr12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kafehr12](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kafehr12)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/19 "2017-09-26T23:19:26Z")
So now I have no gas line pressure tank reads fuel empty but I know it’s at least half full could a bad o ring on the injectors or fuel rail cause that ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818/20 "2017-09-29T02:59:18Z")
> [@kafehr12](#): > > no gas line pressure tank reads fuel empty but I know it’s at least half full could a bad o ring on the injectors or fuel rail cause that Gas gauge or sender unit may be faulty. The most likely causes for low fuel rail pressure are - out of gas - fuse blown - fuel pump faulty - fuel pump relay faulty - engine computer fails to detect engine is turning; e.g. faulty crank position sensor - faulty fuel pressure regulator - fuel filter clogged - engine computer bonkers [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/saturn-l200-just-died/107818.md?page=2)