# Rusty motorcycle gas tank, sealer failed **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [August 14, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073 "2012-08-14T07:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/1 "2012-08-14T07:36:56Z")
I have a nearly antique BMW R-80 that had a leak in one of the bottom seams of the tank. I got some sloshing sealer that is used by airplane companies to seal tanks on brand new planes as they are built. Should be good stuff, right? Weellll airplane fuel doesn’t have any ethanol in it. It is nearly impossible to buy auto fuel without 10 to 15% ethanol around here. I was not aware that the ethanol fuel would “eat” the sealer. SOOOO, now I have a tank with a thin film of worthless goo on the inside. I did an internet search for info about POR-15, which has been discussed here many times. I don’t think this exact issue has been addressed though. The person I contacted said the company makes something to clean out the “failed sealer”. Then there is a process to go through to get rid of any remaining rust, and finally reseal the tank with a compound that they say is impervious to ethanol fuels. Has anyone here had this sort of situation? Did the POR-15 product fix it? If not, what did you use? Tanks, I mean thanks. MG ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/2 "2012-08-14T07:42:47Z")
If you’re not on a tight budget I’d find a motorcycle restoration shop that could take care of this. You don’t want to compound the problem. ---
**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/3 "2012-08-14T07:59:35Z")
My guess is that a motorcycle resto shop would do the same thing I will, IF the POR-15 chemicals will work. I just need a recommendation or a warm fuzzy feeling before I start. It’s $48 for the kit. That’s not exactly cheap. So far I’ve dumped $300 in the last month, and I have yet to ride it this summer. An Apple Hydraulics rebuilt master cylinder is the next thing after the tank, but I want to be sure it runs, before I have make it stop. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/4 "2012-08-14T08:08:54Z")
I didn’t bother looking at the name - you’re plenty knowledgeable. But how many folks will have faced this problem? Not many. Maybe post this on a bike forum? ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/5 "2012-08-14T13:48:58Z")
All I can say is that about 8 years ago, I used the POR tank sealer on an old 75 Jawa CZ250 that had rusted pretty bad and was clogging fuel filters. No problems afterward but it did not leak prior to the application. POR has always stood behind their products for me even sending me samples at times. They claim it will be OK if you follow their instructions on prep (especially removing the failed stuff) so I would be comfortable using it. They’d probably do something to help if it failed for some reason as well… Did you mention the seam leak to them? Were they OK with it bridging that leak? Seam is on bottom of tank so you might be able to weld shut and not affect visible paint?? ---
**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/6 "2012-08-14T16:20:56Z")
It is rusted in the seam which appears to be crimped together and welded. There is also some rust visible through the tank filler, but that’s not leaking, yet. ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/7 "2012-08-14T16:55:59Z")
I’d bring it to a radiator shop and have them fix it. I’ve done this several times to radiators and gas tanks to vintage cars. It’ll be good as new and pressure tested when you get it back so you won’t ever need to worry about it. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/8 "2012-08-14T17:01:06Z")
Since the tank is now full of goo and rust, maybe it would be better to locate a serviceable used tank for this bike… ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/9 "2012-08-14T17:17:28Z")
That would be best but could be trick, it being a fairly vintage bike. I suspect there aren’t too many part bikes like that around in this country. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/10 "2012-08-14T17:28:15Z")
R60, R75, R80, R90 Beemers were fairly common, made for many years and they all share the same basic gas tanks. Optional high-volume tanks were available for them in the aftermarket so I suspect there are replacement tanks available…Like anything BMW, it’s just a matter of money and how badly you want it… ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/11 "2012-08-14T17:30:36Z")
Lol - true. I’ll ask a friend of mine. He’s restoring a vintage BWM. He may know of a good parts source. ---
**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/12 "2012-08-14T17:47:04Z")
I have seen used BMW tanks on ebay with starting prices in the $500 range. No thanks. Buying one of them might not cure the situation as it could be more rusty than the one I have. I’d rather fix the devil I know, if pssible, than to buy more problems. I just don’t know if POR’s solution will do it. The maker of the “goo” I have is no help. ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/13 "2012-08-14T17:52:10Z")
Gotcha. Seriously, in that case, I’d see if you can find a radiator shop in your area. My old rambler tank looked like the moon’s surface on the inside since it had been sitting without a cap on it since 76. I tried rattling it out with a chain to no avail. It also had a leak. A replacement tank was cost prohibitive in shipping alone so got it fixed. After I got it back from the shop, it looked like new. It cost me just shy of $200. ---
**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/14 "2012-08-14T19:38:02Z")
I have seen used BMW tanks on ebay with starting prices in the $500 range. No thanks. Buying one of them might not cure the situation as it could be more rusty than the one I have. I’d rather fix the devil I know, if possible, than to buy more problems. I just don’t know if POR’s solution will do it. The maker of the “goo” I have is no help. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/15 "2012-08-14T19:55:48Z")
Remember, we’re talking about a motorcycle tank. Usually, a rad shop is going to be brute force and not worried about appearance. This thing has vintage paint I would assume MG would like to keep intact if at all possible. Repainting tanks is a PITA because they see gas spills all the time. Need hardener and have to match the rest of the aged bike paint. I’d use sealer first. Did the chain trick on that old bike tank. Along with the metal cleaner and etch, it did a fair job of removing the loose scale. The sealer takes care of the rest. ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/16 "2012-08-14T20:09:31Z")
Ah, yes you do have a good point there, Turbo. Car tanks are of course hidden where bike tanks aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/17 "2012-08-14T20:25:17Z")
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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/18 "2012-08-14T20:26:23Z")
The Cafe Racers I know cut out the rusted metal from their gas tanks and then weld in a formed pieces of new metal. Tester ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/19 "2012-08-14T20:41:09Z")
I’m admittedly not a motorcyclist (I like bikes but just never got the liscense), but because we’re talking about gasoline I’d recommend either going to a pro to get it sealed properly or replacing it. Gas fumes are IMHO too volatile and the risk too great to be fooling with a rusted out tank. ---
**Author:** ![oblivion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@oblivion](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oblivion)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073/20 "2012-08-15T01:38:42Z")
If the seam is in a spot that’s not too noticeable, how about using some JB Weld or epoxy putty? It can be ground and painted after curing. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusty-motorcycle-gas-tank-sealer-failed/74073.md?page=2)