# Rusted subframe on 2003 Altima **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [June 25, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976 "2019-06-25T16:33:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Apger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Darryl\_Apger](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Darryl_Apger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/1 "2019-06-25T16:33:24Z")
My 2003 Nissan Altima has 65000 miles and dealer said it has a rusted subframe that needs to be replaced for $2000. Is it time to get a new car or do the repair? ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/2 "2019-06-25T16:37:43Z")
> [@Darryl\_Apger](#): > > Is it time to get a new car or do the repai Rust is never in just one place and why are you taking a 16 year old vehicle to the dealer anyway. Take this thing to independent body shop for second opinion. Me , I would not put that much money in it . ---
**Author:** ![anon86613489](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@anon86613489](https://community.cartalk.com/u/anon86613489)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/3 "2019-06-25T16:39:08Z")
> [@Darryl\_Apger](#): > > Is it time to get a new car or do the repair Likely. We just had another thread with a -05 Altima with rusted out floorpans. I would CAREFULLY drive the car to another relevant shop (not a dealer - a bodyshop) and ask for a detailed inspection of the whole car with regards to anything metal. The whole structure could easily be compromised ---
**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/4 "2019-06-25T16:46:52Z")
Take pictures of the damage and post it here. ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Apger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Darryl\_Apger](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Darryl_Apger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/5 "2019-06-25T16:50:56Z")
Here’s a picture ![Image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/a/0abbb6df0a09b8b15c1b26647037c479858f5b98.jpeg) from the dealer. ---
**Author:** ![anon86613489](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@anon86613489](https://community.cartalk.com/u/anon86613489)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/6 "2019-06-25T17:02:59Z")
Hmmm. After seeing the pic, I’m smelling a rat, but i haven’t seen it. Better be safe than sorry, take the car to a body shop and get it inspected. The subframe is the structure which holds the engine and front suspension in place so the integrity is vital, but if the bodyman can bang on it with a hammer everywhere with a solid clang as a response, it’s okay even with the rust shown on the pic. But I’ll get something done to the rust. ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/7 "2019-06-25T17:09:37Z")
> [@Darryl\_Apger](#): > > My 2003 Nissan Altima has 65000 miles and dealer said it has a rusted subframe that needs to be replaced for $2000. Is it time to get a new car or do the repair? > > Are you talking about a **rear** subframe? > > Nissan made years of cars that suffered from severe rust (floors, subframes, etcetera). Your vehicle was one of them and Nissan extended the warranty to 13 years on rear subframe corrosion! Unfortunately for you, that ship has sailed. > **[nissan-maxima-2004-2005-subframe-rust.pdf](https://mynissanmaxima.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/nissan-maxima-2004-2005-subframe-rust.pdf)** > > 1281.88 KB All the jokes about those Nissans being made from Japanese beer cans, aside, I’d replace the car with something other than a Nissan. Don’t throw good money after bad. _ **CSA** _ 🌲🕶🌲 P.S. Just got the photo. Oh, it’s the front! Same advice. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/8 "2019-06-25T17:20:31Z")
That photo doesn’t convince me one way or the other - it might not be that bad. As suggested, get a second opinion. That’s a relatively small area, a shop might be able to weld in some repair pieces. ---
**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/9 "2019-06-25T17:26:05Z")
I enlarged the picture and see mostly surface rust. I would clean it off with a wire wheel and coat it with a few coats of rustproofing paint. To make sure the rust isn’t terminal.use a screwdriver to poke at it. ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Apger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Darryl\_Apger](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Darryl_Apger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/10 "2019-06-25T17:40:22Z")
Thanks so much for the thorough feedback. Much appreciate the expertise I don’t have. Next step - get a second opinion from a local place and start thinking about a new car. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/11 "2019-06-25T18:33:04Z")
any trans shop can replace a subframe as its a normal part of a trans drop. you can get a solid subframe at a junkyard and have it installed. as long as the mounting points are good and the bolts spin out ok than it could be done. ---
**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/12 "2019-06-25T19:01:50Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > as long as the mounting points are good and the bolts spin out ok than it could be done. mounting bolts are most likely NOT ok on this 16-years old Altima I remember a guy who complaint that every subframe bolt on his 10+ years old Altima to be PIA to detach as bolt goes to the nut welded into a unibody, where the trouble is that it is only one spot-weld point per nut and it is immediately gets cut as you try unbolting that old rusty thing, so he ended up cutting bolt heads with a Dremel tool, then dealing with studs sticking from the unibody ---
**Author:** ![bloody\_knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@bloody\_knuckles](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bloody_knuckles)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/13 "2019-06-25T19:11:24Z")
If the rest of the car is in good shape, I have had good experiences with replacing front subframes. Some are more prone to rust then others based on design and drainage. I have had several cars go years and many miles with used front subframes installed, typically for around $600 to $900. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/rusted-subframe-on-2003-altima/142976/14 "2019-06-25T20:16:34Z")
It’s difficult to tell in a picture but here’s where I would want a closer look; See the mount on this side- ![Capture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/b/fbe082d6fc6e313861deb4074f98634b237822d1.png) Compare that to the other side- ![Capture2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/c/9c223bcd57629962fe9df47808d6a39a46f34dab.png)