# Remote alarm or starter? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** scion, xa, toyota\ **Created:** [October 31, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186 "2022-10-31T23:26:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/1 "2022-10-31T23:26:00Z")
I picked up car with manual trans and no start issue. I can turn on ign and push start it but it won’t crank. I traced the wires to module and unplugged it and car cranks and starts now. Could this be just a simple alarm? But not a starter? With manual trans? ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 6:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/2 "2022-11-01T06:20:08Z")
More likely some sort of immobilizer or alarm system. ---
**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/3 "2022-11-01T16:34:14Z")
[Symptoms of a Bad or Failing Clutch Safety Switch | YourMechanic Advice](https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/symptoms-of-a-bad-or-failing-clutch-safety-switch) ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/4 "2022-11-01T18:07:25Z")
Ask shop to measure the voltage on the starter “s” terminal with key in “start”. It should be at least 10.5 volts. If it is, and it doesn’t crank, most likely a starter motor problem. In your case I’m guessing it will measure 10.5 volts in configurations where it starts, and 0 volts in the non-start configuration. That would imply some sort of problem between the ignition switch and the starter motor, most likely among the clutch safety switch, ignition switch, or security system. I had a similar problem on my Corolla years ago, turned out to be a dealership-installed security system problem. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/5 "2022-11-01T18:11:24Z")
What is with you that you have to mention your old vehicles so often . They have so little in common with modern vehicles that it is a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/6 "2022-11-01T20:49:42Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Could this be just a simple alarm Can you post a pic of the module? ---
**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/7 "2022-11-01T20:58:06Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > a waste of time. pot, meet kettle… ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/8 "2022-11-01T21:55:45Z")
![IMG_0848](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/2/d2b036f36da4e13d3218fea2e253f52dbdb5e554.jpeg) ![IMG_0850](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/8/a83c4b30ca1a562085574880950c7737109c8759.jpeg) ![IMG_0851](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/2/e2906dc650052e51950a8828cc853dd87a8cfc01.jpeg) the car starts fine now with the module unplugged. i am trying to figure out where the wires from plug go but its up inside the steering colum ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/9 "2022-11-01T22:07:53Z")
That’s all aftermarket stuff. Usually causes more problems than they solve. My advice is to spend an hour to remove the column covers and kick panel as needed to remove these items and return the wiring to original configuration. This will avoid future problems. ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/10 "2022-11-01T23:07:52Z")
This should tell you what the wires are supposed to go to > **[Audiovox Prestige APS-25KB Installation Manual (Page 6 of 6) | ManualsLib](https://www.manualslib.com/manual/11734/Audiovox-Prestige-Aps-25kb.html?page=6#manual)** > > View and Download Audiovox Prestige APS-25KB installation manual online. Audiovox Car Security System Installation Manual. Prestige APS-25KB car alarm pdf manual download. And for the whole manual > **[AUDIOVOX PRESTIGE APS-25KB INSTALLATION MANUAL Pdf Download](https://www.manualslib.com/manual/11734/Audiovox-Prestige-Aps-25kb.html#manual)** > > View and Download Audiovox Prestige APS-25KB installation manual online. Audiovox Car Security System Installation Manual. Prestige APS-25KB car alarm pdf manual download. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/11 "2022-11-02T16:23:05Z")
The solenoid has a pigtail going somewhere. Like the 8 pin connector. They both go up under dash next to steering column. Don’t know what they are spliced into. but car is starting. Unless I’m reading schematic wrong. ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/12 "2022-11-02T16:43:33Z")
There’s no telling what the “installer” did or didn’t connect or disconnect. If it starts and runs you are ahead. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remote-alarm-or-starter/187186/13 "2022-11-02T22:26:30Z")
Yes, looks like some sort of after-market anti-theft gadget. If you don’t want that function, maybe just position all that stuff out of the way, leave disconnected, and otherwise forget-about-it. The similar (but less complicated) anti-theft gadget that caused trouble on my new Corolla, I was able to remove it completely. Had to make a few minor wiring repairs is all.