# Remember the Dale? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 31, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691 "2025-03-31T02:09:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691/1 "2025-03-31T02:09:09Z")
It was an experimental car from the '70s. Richard Carlson (Tucker’s father) broke the story: [https://www.nytimes.com/1975/10/12/archives/the-strange-case-of-the-dale.html](https://www.nytimes.com/1975/10/12/archives/the-strange-case-of-the-dale.html) He died, which brought the story to my attention: [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/business/media/richard-carlson-dead.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/business/media/richard-carlson-dead.html) He wrote a touching story about his adoption for the ‘Washington Post’ in 1993: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1993/08/08/my-40-year-goodbye/9e458838-16ec-4f48-9744-248857ddd627](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1993/08/08/my-40-year-goodbye/9e458838-16ec-4f48-9744-248857ddd627) ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691/2 "2025-03-31T02:15:50Z")
The Dale was not promoted as an experimental car. It was pitched as a real solution to the oil crises. It turned out to be a scam. History is full of stillborn cars. The Elio, the Aptera, the Vector…although some got built, and one of the most famous, the Tucker. Some were scams, some were poor management, some victims of circumstance. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691/3 "2025-03-31T04:46:38Z")
I thought this conversation was going to be about THE Dale, the 3, the Intimidator! His 1998 Daytona 500 made me a steady fan of the sport, until about 10 years ago, when the Nascar Cup started turning into the Hendrick Cup..! Broke my heart when, around fifteen years ago, Dale Jr. joined Satan - ahooom-cough-cough-hacccck - Hendrick Motorsports. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 6:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691/4 "2025-03-31T06:48:59Z")
You can add the Muntz Jet and the Playboy from Buffalo suburb of the Town of Tonawanda/ both just after WWII ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691/5 "2025-03-31T12:51:22Z")
The Dale wasn’t a scam. Dale Clifft produced a prototype. Twentieth Century Motor Cars, the company that marketed the Dale, was a fraud and the owner of it ended up spending 18 months in prison for her activities. > **[Twentieth Century Motor Car Corporation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Century_Motor_Car_Corporation)** > > The Twentieth Century Motor Car Corporation was an American automobile company started by Geraldine Elizabeth "Liz" Carmichael, in 1974, incorporated in Nevada. The company's flagship vehicle was the Dale, a prototype three-wheeled two-seater automobile designed and built by Dale Clifft. It was touted as being powered by an 850 cc air-cooled engine and featuring 70 mpg‑US (3.4 L/100 km; 84 mpg‑imp) fuel economy and a $2,000 price (roughly equivalent to $12,000 in 2024), which were popula The comp... ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/remember-the-dale/199691/6 "2025-03-31T14:24:16Z")
There was a good HBO documentary on it in 2021, watch it if you have access.