# Reliance on Tesla's Autopilot **URL:** \ **Category:** Safety\ **Tags:** tesla\ **Created:** [January 20, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027 "2022-01-20T15:58:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/1 "2022-01-20T15:58:07Z")
… has resulted in two _Vehicular Manslaughter_ charges for a Tesla driver: > **[A Tesla driver is charged in a crash involving Autopilot that killed 2 people](https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073857310/tesla-autopilot-crash-charges)** > > California prosecutors have filed two counts of vehicular manslaughter against the driver of a Tesla on Autopilot who ran a red light, slammed into another car and killed two people in 2019. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/2 "2022-01-20T16:15:00Z")
And the IIHS has come out with a new rating system, making it clear that "Despite misleading messaging from some manufacturers, for now, at least, self-driving cars are not available to consumers. What many vehicles on the market do have is partial automation. The human driver must still handle many routine driving tasks that the systems aren’t designed to do. " . [IIHS creates safeguard ratings for partial automation](https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/iihs-creates-safeguard-ratings-for-partial-automation) ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/3 "2022-01-20T18:25:07Z")
While I applaud this, I’d be even happier if they’d charge Musk/Tesla as accessories. There’s no excuse for telling people your car can drive itself when it can’t. ---
**Author:** ![ledhed75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@ledhed75](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ledhed75)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/4 "2022-01-20T20:56:03Z")
I’ll just stick to my “manual” car. Meaning…the human handles all the driving. Seems so much simpler that way. ---
**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/5 "2022-01-20T21:02:34Z")
If autopilot and Autonomous vehicles become the norm in the future. does that mean we won’t need driver’s licenses or auto insurance anymore? ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/6 "2022-01-20T21:15:55Z")
> [@weekend-warrior](#): > > auto insurance anymore? Who would pay for damages if the car screws up? ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/7 "2022-01-20T21:27:23Z")
And throw in whatever truck commercial no hands passing a car, oh my! ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/reliance-on-teslas-autopilot/182027/8 "2022-01-21T00:36:29Z")
> [@weekend-warrior](#): > > If autopilot and Autonomous vehicles become the norm in the future. does that mean we won’t need driver’s licenses or auto insurance anymore? Correct. > [@Renegade](#): > > Who would pay for damages if the car screws up? As reported several times in this forum the makes of autonomous vehicles have said they would take responsibility. Now that may change.