# Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522 "2025-03-18T06:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/401 "2025-04-16T13:55:50Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > I’m number 400!!! ![:confused:](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/2/f/2fa46d873242438f338c162a571192886523d8c6.gif) On my screen, your post is #321. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/402 "2025-04-16T13:59:20Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > > [@davesmopar](#): > > > > I’m number 400!!! > > ![:confused:](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/2/f/2fa46d873242438f338c162a571192886523d8c6.gif) > > On my screen, your post is #321. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/9/f90379a74f76d66a77565d988a3688a9cf44125c.png) Strange… EDIT: maybe you have someone on the ignore list or something… ?? ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/403 "2025-04-16T14:02:28Z")
Dave, yes you were 400 on my screen. Now to 500. Maybe we should move on to chemtrails🤪 ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/404 "2025-04-16T14:08:26Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > maybe you have someone on the ignore list or something Yes, I do. That explains it! ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/405 "2025-04-16T15:09:37Z")
Show off!!! ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/406 "2025-04-18T22:14:17Z")
Attached: The comment section from a recent Curbside Classic article about the 1991 Honda Accord. The highlighted statements are telling! Is it the relative size of the vehicle, the tires, electric vs conventional steering, the suspension, something else? I know already some of you will defend the handling of the more recent Honda, and of other recent makes. Perhaps you will state that they “don’t know what they’re talking about”, and that’s ok - those of you that do are probably not old enough to remember the cars referred to in the article. ![IMG_4222](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/c/1/c1563b1a01077fef362d238d02f4725ea15965c2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/407 "2025-04-18T23:21:25Z")
"probably not old enough to remember the cars referred to . . . " We’ve already discussed this You KNOW many/most of the regulars are your age, if not older You’re in your mid-50s, like many of us, yet you speak as if you’re older and smarter than the rest of us PLEASE STOP WITH THE INSULTS The capital letters were absolutely intentional ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/408 "2025-04-18T23:56:55Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > "probably not old enough to remember the > cars referred to . . . " > > We’ve already discussed this > > You KNOW many/most of the regulars > are your age, if not older Then pray tell why are most of you more in favor of more recent developments in car-tech, than I, who have experienced some of it and expressed my displeasure for? I’m in the same boat regarding my now 70 year old church pastor: While my goal remains to keep each of my smart phones going for ten years, the Pastor must have the latest version within weeks of its launch. He adopted the first Apple watch ten years ago, where as I could care less about having a watch that does everything the iPhone can. I guess I just have an “older mind”. So don’t take it as an insult. It’s natural to misjudge someone’s age by how they express themself, what lifestyle they adapt, what older or newer music or tech they embraces. So, insult is not the intent. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/409 "2025-04-19T00:02:13Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > I guess I just have an “older mind” Not the problem it is your attitude that you know better than anyone else on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/410 "2025-04-19T01:13:41Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > Then pray tell why are most of you more in favor of more recent developments in car-tech, than I, who have experienced some of it and expressed my displeasure for? My cars have had 60, then 65, then 50, 50, 50 series tires, and ALL have had none of the issues you claim. They drive fine, they handle fine, they’re stable at speed and in corners, they’re fine on the freeway for hours on end. So your complaints are contradicted by my 50+ years of driving experience. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/411 "2025-04-19T02:09:47Z")
The old 1992 Civic we had from 1993 (RIP 3-8-25) had 175/70R13’s on it OEM, well, that size is all but gone and basically the only ones left in that size suck, have run 14" and 17" wide low pros on it and with the 17" wheel/tires it by far handled way better than the 13" wheels, had dropped back down to the 13"s ONLY because of the extra weight of the 17" wheel/tires slowed it way down on acceleration, and NO the engine was not stock… lol ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/412 "2025-04-19T12:35:09Z")
“more attached to the road”, try a go-kart. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/413 "2025-04-19T13:23:06Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > dropped back down to the 13"s ONLY because of the > extra weight of the 17" wheel/tires slowed it way down > on acceleration, That’s good enough reason. 17" rims don’t belong near a Civic. Even going back to 14"s is reasonable in that particular instance. ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/414 "2025-04-19T13:34:11Z")
Doing my part to reach 500! ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/415 "2025-04-19T13:52:23Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > That’s good enough reason. 17" rims don’t belong near a Civic. > > Even going back to 14"s is reasonable in that particular instance. If we would have had the money to buy some light weight 17" wheels, then it would have been a different story… Or a turbo… lol ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/416 "2025-04-19T13:56:45Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > had dropped back down to the 13"s ONLY because of the extra weight of the 17" wheel/tires slowed it way down on acceleration, and NO the engine was not stock… lol Seriously ? A passenger would probably make more of a weight difference. ---
**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/417 "2025-04-19T14:11:48Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > A passenger would probably make more of a weight difference. It sounds like you might not be aware of the difference between unsprung weight and sprung weight. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/418 "2025-04-19T14:15:41Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > passenger would probably make more of a weight difference. Heavy wheels and tires are like adding 4 flywheels to the engine. It takes energy to spin up that extra weight. Energy best used to accelerate the car. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/419 "2025-04-19T14:26:07Z")
> [@lion9car](#): > > It sounds like you might not be aware of the difference between unsprung weight and sprung weight. I do but I just don’t see the problem of wheel size being a big deal . ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/420 "2025-04-19T15:33:14Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > I do but I just don’t see the problem > of wheel size being a big deal . Here’s your prize then…! ![IMG_4326](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/f/af890dedff3f191d6ba50bdf21f44244459aa500.jpeg) 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=20) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=22)