# Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522 "2025-03-18T06:45:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/21 "2025-03-19T00:58:43Z")

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Somebody wrote a “review” about the “handling” characteristics of a 10 year old sub-compact econobox that’s no longer being sold. That itself is ridiculous and things just went downhill from there. 😀

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/22 "2025-03-19T01:29:07Z")

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I owned econoboxes with skinny during my younger years

They were NOT fun to drive, nor did they handle particularly well

The cars got the job done, which was get me to/from work, grocery store, doctor’s appointments, etc.

There’s nothing more to be said about any of them

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/23 "2025-03-19T01:52:34Z")

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> [@db4690](#):
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> They were NOT fun to drive, nor  
> did they handle particularly well

Your opinion, duly noted.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/24 "2025-03-19T02:03:34Z")

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So I guess no solution on this one… 🙃

Already had 2 engineers comment on this, so no use in adding anymore with my personal experience on the subject…

This will just be another 100 reply go nowhere thread that changes nobody’s mind (wright or wrong)…

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/25 "2025-03-19T02:10:31Z")

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Here are 2 I owned . . .

1994 Tercel 1.5-liter engine 155R13 tires, if memory serves. 2door 4spd stick, ac, vinyl seats, sealed beams, manual steering, windows and locks. The rear seats didn’t even fold down. It didn’t even come with a passenger side mirror or a trip meter

1986 Starlet (europe) 1liter engine 145/80R13 tires, if memory serves, 2door hatchback, 4spd stick, no ac, manual steering, windows and locks. That car didn’t even have a radio

Are you going to argue and say those cars were fun in any way, shape or form?

Yeah, it’s my opinion, but I believe most people that owned those cars . . . or comparable models . . . probably don’t remember them as being particularly fun to drive

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/26 "2025-03-19T02:10:44Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> So, he _claims_ to be interested in excellent handling characteristics, but when he’s “called” on the inaccuracy of his statements, he falls back on the “not in a race” comment. I guess that reciting that refrain is easier than admitting one’s error.

No error at all. Straight line stability is as much a component of handling as is acceleration, braking, and weaving around other drivers like you were playing Gran Turismo on a console.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/27 "2025-03-19T02:32:09Z")

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None of my cars have lacked for straight line stability, 50 series tires on all 3 recent ones.

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 8:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/28 "2025-03-19T08:37:32Z")

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In the snow, you are better off with narrower and taller(longer footprint) tires.tires. The first cars you see up on top of the guardrails aronun here when winter hits are Camaros and Mustangs, only because hardly anybody is crazy enough to drive a Corvette in our winters.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 10:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/29 "2025-03-19T10:18:31Z")

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tex:

My issue is more with how much more responsive wider lower profile tires are to even normal steering commands. It doesn’t feel natural to me.

Higher profile tires resist steering a little more, and feel more intuitive to me.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 10:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/30 "2025-03-19T10:54:49Z")

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Sure, skinny tires rule!

 ![IMG_2853](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/1/911d74c2bef8d0b3a7865d9f5fc712baf1f45c5d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 10:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/31 "2025-03-19T10:58:33Z")

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Dude:

I’m what you’d call a ‘contrarian’, but with the added quality that I’m not doing it just to be different. My views on everything:

Narrow tires vs wide

Standard time vs Daylight Slaving

CRT (tube) TVs vs flats

Payphones vs the ones we carry in our pockets

etc.

It’s all sincere and genuine.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/32 "2025-03-19T12:31:46Z")

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based on what you just posted about CRT and payphones, I’d say you might even qualify as “cantankerous”

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/33 "2025-03-19T12:36:26Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> CRT (tube) TVs vs flats
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> Payphones vs the ones we carry in our pockets

Good Grief !!

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/34 "2025-03-19T13:00:01Z")

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Come on old pal - you’re probably older than I am. Don’t’chya feel it? lol

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/35 "2025-03-19T13:03:27Z")

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First of all , I am not your old pal and age has nothing to do with be stubborn to the point of refusing to adapt.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/36 "2025-03-19T13:05:28Z")

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We all have the choice to adapt what we feel like adapting. Isn’t that what free markets are all about?

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/37 "2025-03-19T14:03:35Z")

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> [@oldtimer-11](#):
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> The first cars you see up on top of the guardrails aronun here when winter hits are Camaros and Mustangs

A friend had a Dodge Challenger. We were driving back from date night on a slushy highway. The back end kicked out and as he tried to correct, the oscillations grew. It didn’t take long before the back end spun around. I put my upper arms across my face with forearms draped behind my head to minimize glass injury to my face and eyes. Turned out the back right fender hit the guard rail in the median without any additional damage. We got back on the road and returned home without additional problems. Since there was no bodily damage and I didn’t own the car, I think of it as good roller coaster ride.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/38 "2025-03-19T14:11:33Z")

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That would likely not have happened to me.

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/39 "2025-03-19T14:26:13Z")

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Years ago I would contribute to forums like this with definitive assertions on things I believed to be true. It didn’t take long for me to learn how wrong that approach was. Digging my heals in only kept me from learning with an open mind, as well as limiting the productiveness of the discussion.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/40 "2025-03-19T14:26:51Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> Higher profile tires resist steering a little more

No, they resist less. The reaction time is slower because the higher aspect ratio tire is a “soft spring” rather than a stiff one.

And a 6 inch wide tread tire takes less force to turn that a 12 inch wide tread.

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