# Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522 "2025-03-18T06:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/321 "2025-04-14T13:38:34Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > Welcome to the future where a 5,400 pound > Chevy Silverado is faster in the 1/4 mile with > 13.9 seconds, will out corner on any road, Sounds like trying to run a race. Not my priorities, nor those of any normal driver. I’m just trying to get straight down a street or highway to work, grocery shopping, or fleamarket hopping on weekends. And do it within the _law_, not at the absolute limits of its capabilities on a race track, or a magazine test course. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/322 "2025-04-14T13:41:42Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > Keep the dreams alive Chris…lol Yup! As Marcel Proust wrote, "Remembrance of things past is not necessarily the remembrance of things as they were.” As George Wildman wrote, “Nostalgia is a seductive liar”. As Doug Larson wrote, “Nostalgia is a file that removes the rough edges from The Good Old Days”. As Le Tellier wrote, “Nostalgia is a villain. It suggests that life makes sense.” ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/323 "2025-04-14T14:00:39Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > > [@davesmopar](#): > > > > Welcome to the future where a 5,400 pound > > Chevy Silverado is faster in the 1/4 mile with > > 13.9 seconds, will out corner on any road, > > Sounds like trying to run a race. > > Not my priorities, nor those of any normal driver. Are you not the one that posted an article about the Acceleration test about the new GTO??? I’m pretty sure the VERY 1st 2 words are ACCELERATION TEST… Just saying… Now you say going from point A to point B legally, well then my Tacoma is almost as fast as the GTO was, but will do everything else better, except for the cool factor, than the GTO, I rarely speed in it as my pitty rides almost everywhere with me, but if and when needed, it will corner and brake better when/if needed… ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/324 "2025-04-14T14:27:06Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > almost as fast as the GTO was, but will do everything else better I can recall reading (don’t remember which magazine…) a test drive of the then-new GTO, and one of their comments was that _the chassis flexed so much, it seemed like the chrome trim was the only thing holding it together._ ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/325 "2025-04-14T15:46:31Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > And do it within the _law_, not at the absolute limits of its capabilities on a race track, or a magazine test course. Unless I’ve misunderstood, you seem to be implying that the rest of us are dangerous drivers who are blatantly speeding at breakneck speeds everywhere, 24/7 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/326 "2025-04-14T16:01:01Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Unless I’ve misunderstood, you seem to be implying that > the rest of us are dangerous drivers who are blatantly > speeding at breakneck speeds everywhere, 24/7 I speak based on observation from my own driving experiences. And yes, I do believe at least 80 percent of all drivers consider posted speed limits to be the speed to stay _over_ when driving, not at, or below. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/327 "2025-04-14T16:27:08Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > not at the absolute limits of its capabilities on a race track, or a magazine test course. The cars are tested at those limits by the manufacturer to allow the driver of said vehicle to avoid their own death when things happen very fast and very seriously. Raising those limits makes the car safer for everyone - driver and other cars. Being able to use those limits when very bad things are about to happen is a life saver. Big tires, big brakes, stiff springs, huge stabilizer bars and fancy shocks make for a car or truck with much higher limits. These are referred to as “active safety” features in contrast to passive safety features like crush zones and airbags. They all contribute to the steady decrease in deaths per miles driven. Even if YOU think you will never need those capabilities, they are there and safe to use when you DO need them. ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/328 "2025-04-14T17:20:37Z")
Hey, how about we shoot for 400!! Doing my part!! ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/329 "2025-04-14T19:44:24Z")
Here! here! I need a complete sentence to post, yes I do. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/330 "2025-04-14T19:52:40Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > The concepts I highlighted still apply, in 1968 or 2025. There is a big difference in drivability and performance between bias ply and radial tires. I don’t plan to buy bias ply tires in 2025. The last time I bought a set of bias ply tires was in 1988, I agree with the comments in that old, old review. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/331 "2025-04-14T20:41:26Z")
> [@texases](#): > > And those ‘wide tires’ were probably 70 series, which you love. I remember being about 8 years old and Uncle Ron stopped by to pick up dad and me to go somewhere. Dad said “Hey Ron, you have a low tire.” Ron said “Nah, I just bought these new low-profile things. See, it says 70 in the size.” ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/332 "2025-04-14T23:23:58Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > I don’t plan to buy bias ply tires in 2025 And I’m certainly not advocating going back to bias. I’m just advocating for _reasonable_ aspect ratios, 60 to 70-series. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/333 "2025-04-15T00:34:10Z")
When you sent your design concepts to car manufacturers and tire companies, what was their response? ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/334 "2025-04-15T00:53:07Z")
So let’s get this straight . . . You’re “advocating for reasonable aspect ratios, 60 to 70-series” . . . Yet your OWN car has 225/50R17 King of hypocrisy 👑 ---
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/335 "2025-04-15T01:26:58Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > And yes, I do believe at least 80 percent of all drivers consider posted speed limits to be the speed to stay _over_ when driving, not at, or below. I completely agree. People like to zoom around roaring their engines around here. They drive like there is someone chasing them. If you go the speedlimit an enraged driver will roar past you and I mean roar. ---
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/336 "2025-04-15T01:31:46Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > So let’s get this straight . . . > > You’re “advocating for reasonable aspect ratios, 60 to 70-series” . . . > > Yet your OWN car has 225/50R17 > > King of hypocrisy 👑 Its hard to find a newer vehicle that has a sensible aspect ratio. Everything Chris said about these ridiculous tires now a days i agree with and there is science behind it. The main reason for these vehicles having big tires now is styling, they are simply not practical. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/337 "2025-04-15T01:39:11Z")
Have you driven any of these vehicles with “these ridiculous tires” . . . ? If so, do you feel the ride is stiff and uncomfortable? If not, how can you be sure the ride is stif and uncomfortable? ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/338 "2025-04-15T01:43:17Z")
Even if these two stubborn people drove a comfortable vehicle and liked it that did not meet their biased misconseptions they would not admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/339 "2025-04-15T01:54:02Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Have you driven any of these vehicles with “these ridiculous tires” . . . ? > > If so, do you feel the ride is stiff and uncomfortable? Yes I have driven one, a malibu, the tires were stiff and the car rode rough. We have a guy at work with a Chevy cruze sport model. It rides a little rough but he has had so many damaged rims from the stupid low profile tires. It is not practical. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/340 "2025-04-15T02:04:07Z")
Did this Malibu and Cruze have stock rims and tires? Do you happen to know what size tires they had? Do you remember the model years? [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=16) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=18)