# Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522 "2025-03-18T06:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/281 "2025-04-04T15:21:46Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > They don’t sound like oldies, and, they just came out last month, to me! > > For me, the 1990s was the Malaise Era - fashion and music wise. Oh the 90’s was a great time for music in the car. I could finally get rid of that Pioneer Supertuner cassette deck with auto-reverse driving a pair of Jensen 6X9’s and install a CD player–or better yet a 6-disc changer in the trunk. Then I could load the tray with some good music like RHCP, Pearl Jam, Counting Crows, Gin Blossoms, Brooks & Dunn, Alabama, and maybe throw in some oldies like Steely Dan and the Eagles. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/282 "2025-04-04T16:47:58Z")
I dunno, looking back a little, it seems like the 90s was when things started to unravel a little and people got a little nuts. I haven’t really thought much about it. Maybe it was a different generation that started to take over. Kids of the flower power generation or something. At any rate, I’ve driven in my share of bad weather but the thing to remember is that 90% of the winter driving is on clear pavement. Even after a big storm, a day or two later everything is clear. Sometime you have to drive to get home but if you can wait a day, it’s summer. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/283 "2025-04-04T21:59:28Z")
jt what does the guvamint know about tires & traction? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/284 "2025-04-04T22:02:05Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > some oldies like Steely Dan and the Eagles. Those are classic rock, but they’re not oldies. Sounds like you caught the Gen-Z virus again! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/285 "2025-04-04T22:10:29Z")
Pink Floyd sounds good to me ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/286 "2025-04-04T22:24:40Z")
Considering 1/2 of Steely Dan has passed away and the Eagles haven’t released an album in 18 years, I’d say they qualify as “oldies”. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/287 "2025-04-04T22:43:59Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Considering 1/2 of Steely Dan has passed away and the > Eagles haven’t released an album in 18 years, I’d say they > qualify as “oldies”. 1970 is considered by most as the cutoff for “oldies”. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/288 "2025-04-04T23:03:20Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > 1970 is considered by most as the cutoff for “oldies”. But what do you consider “oldies”? The Mamas and The Papas? The Drifters? Edward Kennedy Ellington? Robert Johnson? Scott Joplin? Chopin? Bringing it full circle to the original topic…it occurs to me that Brass Era cars rode on quite narrow tires! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/289 "2025-04-05T03:14:05Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > The Mamas and The Papas? The Drifters? Yes. Rock n roll, doo-wop, early R&B. The others you mentioned are from other well defined genres. ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/290 "2025-04-05T12:13:10Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > what does the guvamint know about tires & traction? They have a group located in Marysville Ohio who are quite knowledgeable. I used to work with one of them. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/291 "2025-04-05T12:36:42Z")
Studded tires are legal where there is snow. Even when it snows in Central Maryland the amount is minimal. Why would we need studded tires if the roads are cleared almost immediately? Studded tires are illegal to reduce road repair costs. That’s a tax savings for residents. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/292 "2025-04-05T12:46:21Z")
Studded tires are best used on ice or packed snow in areas so cold that salt does not work. Winter tires are best used in snow. They are better on ice than all seasons but their real strength is snow. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/293 "2025-04-05T13:15:53Z")
Speaking of tires, I had a happy childhood. My dad used to roll me down the hill inside tires. Those were Goodyears. Ah ha ha. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/294 "2025-04-05T13:22:11Z")
Music is generational. For me 50/60s Rock, and Soul. I purchased Motown, my sister bought British Invasion albums so between us, we had good stuff. Plenty of American rock too, Beach Boys, saw them in concert, I must be an “undesirable element” according to James Gaius Watt, ya gotta be old to get that reference😀 I can throw in some Folk Music, saw Kingston Trio in concert. My assignment when I came back from SEA, was Hill AFB in Utah, there the bars had country music so I developed a taste for country music. Waylon, Willie, and the boys! Very little music after the 70s appeals to me. At a dental appointment the clinic was playing 60s rock on their system, the dental assistant was in her early 20s, I was thinking that music must be torturing her. To bring it back to cars, also had CB radios in my vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/295 "2025-04-05T15:09:44Z")
> **[Oldies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldies)** > > Oldies is a term for musical genres such as pop music, rock and roll, doo-wop, surf music, broadly characterized as classic rock and pop rock, from the second half of the 20th century, specifically from around the mid-1950s to the 1980s, as well as for a radio format playing this music. > Since 2000, 1970s music has been increasingly included in this genre. "Classic hits" have been seen as a successor to the oldies format on the radio, with music from the 1980s serving as the core example. > This... > **[A History and Definition of Oldies Music](https://www.allbutforgottenoldies.net/articles/history-and-definition-of-oldies-music.html)** ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/296 "2025-04-06T12:05:37Z")
4 more to go! Doing my part! ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/297 "2025-04-06T12:17:43Z")
When I drove with studded snow tires we still had bias ply tires. The franchise owner had them on our chicken delivery vehicles. Only three more to go! ---
**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/298 "2025-04-06T12:47:02Z")
Back around 1970, I remember a customer in the gas station I worked at. She was a widow who was petrified of ever getting a flat. She always wanted her tires to have tire liner inserts. They worked. But between the inserts and tubes, I remember them being very heavy. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/299 "2025-04-06T13:05:04Z")
Not familiar with liner inserts. One of our customers had a new 1966 Toronado, their wheel design required tubes, real PIA to mount. He would smoke his front tires for nearly a block leaving our station. Our drivers ed cars were provided by an Olds dealer, we had a Toronado for awhile. Though as students, we could not employ all the horses available. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/300 "2025-04-06T13:17:38Z")
> [@JoeMario](#): > > She always wanted her tires to have tire liner inserts. > They worked. But between the inserts and tubes, I remember them being very heavy. When I worked at a Citgo service station on the NJ Turnpike, back in the late '60s-early '70s, all of the State Police cars used something called (I think… ) a “safety spare” inside their **Goodyear Blue Streak** tires. I recall that the inflation valve was made of brass and that it was more complex than normal inflation valves. You turned the valve in one direction to inflate the tire, and in the other direction to inflate the safety spare inside the tire. I’m sure that these tires were quite heavy, but they gave an extra margin of safety for the Chrysler New Yorker Six Window Sedans that they used for police duty on the NJ Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway. State Police cars that patrolled the non-toll highways were usually Fords or Plymouths, and I don’t think that they used the same tires. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=14) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=16)