# Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522 "2025-03-18T06:45:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/201 "2025-03-29T22:47:08Z")

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That car sounds gross 🤢

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/202 "2025-03-29T22:57:56Z")

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It’s laughably ugly, but I guess that the owner thinks it’s beautiful. Or, maybe he’s colorblind.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/203 "2025-03-29T23:19:42Z")

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Well, someone likes it. At least none of us has to drive it.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/204 "2025-03-30T02:55:47Z")

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> Well, someone likes it.

As the saying goes, there is an a$$ for every seat… lol

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/205 "2025-03-30T04:30:04Z")

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> [@db4690](#):
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> Nice looking car

It’s not my car, it’s a screen grab from the Vogue website. I’d never spend that kind of money on tires that look like that!

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**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/206 "2025-03-30T11:30:51Z")

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> [@asemaster](#):
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> Should we further expand the tire discussion to radial vs bias ply?

Sure! Why not try for 300!

Doing my part!

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/207 "2025-03-30T12:34:45Z")

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Sure, the soft ride of 80+ aspect bias ply tires at 28 PSI can’t be beat.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/208 "2025-03-30T13:19:15Z")

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Different construction altogether, required lower pressures to carry the same gross plus 10 percent.

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/209 "2025-03-30T13:23:44Z")

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In the early 70s, I remember talking with a sales guy from a tire store in a nearby town. He told me about a new kind of tire they just got in. They were Seiberling brand radials.

At that point, I wasn’t aware of radial tires, even though I was a teenager working in a gas station.

If I recall correctly, most of our customers didn’t switch to radials unless their car came with radials from the factory.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/210 "2025-03-30T13:50:25Z")

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> [@JoeMario](#):
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> If I recall correctly, most of our customers didn’t  
> switch to radials unless their car came with radials  
> from the factory.

Americans are creatures of habit.

Most European carmakers had adopted radials before the Beatles came along.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/211 "2025-03-30T14:30:20Z")

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I my opinion and based on memory. Getting people to replace their bias ply tires with radials came from Michelin providing a 40000 mile tread wear warranty on new tires in the late sixties.  
I can’t remember when or if I switched to radials if not OEM.  
I did switch to Michelins on my truck to see if I get more tread wear  
than I did from the Wranglers. Traction, ride, and handling seem no different.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/212 "2025-03-30T14:36:42Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> Getting people to replace their bias ply tires with radials came from Michelin providing a 40000 mile tread wear warranty on new tires in the late sixties.

My first radial tires were the original design Michelin-X, which were OEM equipment on my '74 Volvo. The improvement in traction and ride quality was amazing, but the biggest surprise was their tread life. I got rid of that POS when the tires had 76k of wear on them, and I estimated that they probably had another 20k of life left on them.

Everything about that Volvo was awful–with the exception of the 4-wheel disc brakes and the Michelin-X tires.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/213 "2025-03-30T14:47:40Z")

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Back to the earlier topic of unusual color combos on cars…  
I wonder if this 1953 Imperial still exists.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/b/6b9510fb3ea9e1d55151c612ef42669abe3cf37a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/214 "2025-03-30T14:54:49Z")

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I would take that car . . . but in green

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/215 "2025-03-30T15:17:26Z")

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The ironic part of that car is that an English monarch wouldn’t ride in it, due to it being the wrong color. The body of all “royal” cars is _Royal Claret_ (a dark maroon color) and the roof is always painted black.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/2/62c7133e4d373e1d81a576101a3930aabd3aa8f1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/216 "2025-03-30T19:38:45Z")

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I honestly am not that interested in the royal family and feel they’re probably MORE dysfunctional than most . . . if even half of what’s said has any grain of truth to it

That said, the only royals I have ANY respect for are the ones who served in combat

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/217 "2025-03-30T19:48:35Z")

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> [@db4690](#):
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> they’re probably MORE dysfunctional than most

That’s probably true, and would also be true for most families in which the self-entitled offspring inherit millions of dollars/pounds/francs/lira/euros. Extreme wealth–especially when it wasn’t earned by the recipient–often has a corrosive effect on one’s morals and how one views both his own power and the position of all of the _peons_ who he/she considers to be beneath him/her.

As Lord Acton wrote a couple of hundred years ago, “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. It was true in Acton’s time, and it is true today.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/218 "2025-03-30T21:39:29Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> Sure, the soft ride of 80+ aspect bias ply tires at 28 PSI can’t be beat.

They also offered an entertaining driving experience when picking up a groove in the pavement at highway+ speeds.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/219 "2025-03-30T21:43:04Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

And rampant inbreeding eliminates the suppresses the ability to perceive it!

And jug ears, narrow set eyes and a weak chin… 🤣

At least Lady Di added a bit bleach to that polluted gene pool

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/220 "2025-03-30T22:52:53Z")

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> [@asemaster](#):
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> They also offered an entertaining driving  
> experience when picking up a groove in the  
> pavement at highway+ speeds.

Aahhhh… So Wikipedia is misleading us!

 ![IMG_6658](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/3/13ce5e096711168574dfaa78b4d09226c34d20f0.png)

All fakes, all liars, witch hunt! 🤣🤣

 ![IMG_1144](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/4/4/44fad16c46ad97aec681faad4ea134a84e84c60d.png)

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