# Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522 "2025-03-18T06:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/181 "2025-03-27T17:54:05Z")
I did not know that this forum had a required You Tube watch list. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/182 "2025-03-27T18:34:44Z")
It’s not! You can watch it on MotorTrend too! While I’m on the subject of MotorTrend, I wonder if they changed their minds about only showing reruns. I was watching a Roadkill repeat and a notice came on saying that there would be a new episode of Roadkill on Tuesday (next week). I only recall seeing in-show ads like that as part of the old show, only for real new content. I looked online and didn’t see any indication that MotorTrend or any other Discovery channel would carry new content of this type. I’ll be happy if they changed their minds and will have new episodes of the showsi mentioned plus Roadkill Garage. BTW, I’m old. I have cable. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/183 "2025-03-27T20:44:41Z")
I don’t know about handling but as far as winter traction, my experience. In 1968 my 59 Pontiac came with those wide oval tires on the back. I had a hill by my apartment and those bald wide tire had no problem making it up th3 snowy hill. Over vacation I had the standard size snow tires put on. I had a very hard time making it up the hill with the snow tires. So wider, even bald, provided better traction. Sioux Falls was not great about plowing back then. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/184 "2025-03-27T20:50:27Z")
The “wide oval” tires were not really very wide… especially for an aircraft carrier of a car like a '59 Pontiac. 😉 Knock 1000 lbs of the car and double the tire width and your snow experience will not be the same! 💀 Each set of winter tires I’ve ordered for my cars (from Tire Rack) were narrower than the dry weather tires. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/185 "2025-03-27T20:55:49Z")
This conversation about wide vs narrow or high profile vs low profile is getting old. Can we talk about whitewalls vs raised white letters vs blackwalls? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/186 "2025-03-27T21:31:03Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > Can we talk about whitewalls vs raised white letters vs blackwalls? Do you want solid white letters, or raised outline white letters? I prefer blackwalls, easier to keep clean. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/187 "2025-03-27T22:30:31Z")
I second that sentiment on blackwalls. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/188 "2025-03-27T22:43:24Z")
Those red wall tires on the pontiacs were pretty nice. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/189 "2025-03-27T22:50:27Z")
> [@It\_s-Me](#): > > Do you want solid white letters, or raised outline white letters? Generally the outline white letters, but solids can be nice too as on BF Goodrich Radial T/A. One thing I never liked was the Vogue Tyre mustard and mayo. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/190 "2025-03-28T00:31:52Z")
I’m all for black tires unless it’s a classic car, then I like the wide whites. Big honkin’ letters are fine as long as they adorn fat, under inflated tires like Mickey Thompson’s. . ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/191 "2025-03-28T02:27:52Z")
The old Chevy had Indy 500 RWL’s on it, now it has OWL’s on it, my fun car has OWL’s but I turned them black out… I don’t think my Tacoma would look good with OWL’s, I have seen a few and just doesn’t go with the body lines… All depends on the vehicle and the stance… RWL = raised white letters (solid) OWL = outline white letters I agree, never understood the Vogue thing, but sure made some money selling them, guys would about put a 3rd mortgage and sell off a kid to buy those things… 🤦‍♂️ 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 10:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/192 "2025-03-28T10:24:03Z")
Doing my part to reach 200!! ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/193 "2025-03-28T11:22:07Z")
My F150 came with white outline tires, replaced them with same tires at 30000 miles, at 60000 replaced with black walls, kind of miss the white letters. Only need seven more to hit 200 replies😀 ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/194 "2025-03-28T15:22:59Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > I agree, never understood the Vogue thing, but sure made some money selling them, guys would about put a 3rd mortgage and sell off a kid to buy those things And my experience was that the car could be running on 7 cylinders with a leaky radiator, brake pedal to the floor, and no air conditioning, but if it had those good looking mustard and mayo Vogues… ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/195 "2025-03-29T13:55:22Z")
Had to Google Vogue tires, chose to not research them, they never appeared when I search by primary need—in my case wet traction. Since they are spelled tyre, are they British? As far as the above comment about running on 7 cylinders, leaky radiator, etc., same can be said about the 5000 watt sound systems that rattle the rusted trunk lids. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/196 "2025-03-29T13:59:01Z")
> [@Purebred](#): > > Had to Google Vogue tires, chose to not research them The only cars I’ve ever seen with Vogue tires were Caddys that were “pimped-out” to at least some extent. You know… the ones with the fake convertible roof, “gold” trim, “gold” alloy wheels, etc. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/197 "2025-03-29T18:16:53Z")
> [@Purebred](#): > > Since they are spelled tyre, are they British? No, they’re an American company. I imagine they use the British spelling to appeal to the more particular customer. 😀 > [@VDCdriver](#): > > The only cars I’ve ever seen with Vogue tires were Caddys ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/4/f4ecd0e53fef33dd32fda72de10c3280fee65ae8.jpeg) Well, we are close to 200 replies now. Should we further expand the tire discussion to radial vs bias ply? 😁 If a narrower tire is better, the contact patch from some 60’s era should pull us in the right direction… ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/198 "2025-03-29T19:34:59Z")
Nice looking car I’ve always liked silver ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/199 "2025-03-29T19:52:23Z")
The Vogues look dorky on that SUV. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/200 "2025-03-29T22:17:47Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > The Vogues look dorky on that SUV. It would be much improved if it had a fake convertible roof and “gold” trim and “gold” aftermarket rims. 😏 A few times each year, I see a Caddy that must be owned by someone in my town. It’s a sedan, probably 5-8 years old, and it’s quite a sight. Visualize burgundy paint, a fake convertible roof in a color that I think would be called _fuchsia_, “gold” aftermarket wheels, “gold” trim, and–of course–Vogue tires. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=9) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522.md?page=11)