# Radio heaters **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 3, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926 "2018-04-03T05:53:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/1 "2018-04-03T05:53:00Z")
Does anyone else remember radio heaters? ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/2 "2018-04-03T09:25:10Z")
Not familiar with those at all, perhaps there is a different term? The oldest car I ever had was a '49 and the heater operated much like a modern car except used cables to operate blend doors. But it did have a tube radio that gave off a fair amount of heat. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/3 "2018-04-03T12:05:49Z")
Are you referring to the heaters that were on each post at the drive-in theaters? The upper were the speakers and the lower were the heaters ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/f/fc0b6b349ef0322f9e19f1c1e81d47078a0dec5d.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/4 "2018-04-03T12:33:57Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Are you referring to the heaters that were on each post at the drive-in theaters? > > The upper were the speakers and the lower were the heaters Wow, I’m not as old as I thought. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/5 "2018-04-03T12:38:39Z")
> [@PvtPublic](#): > > Wow, I’m not as old as I thought. Or I am as old as you thought you were… 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/6 "2018-04-03T13:28:57Z")
Back in the 1950s, a classified ad for a car might appear as follows: For Sale:. 1948 Chevrolet, radio, heater, good condition. $495. Back in those days, a radio and a heater were options. This may be where the OP comes up with “'radio heater”. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/7 "2018-04-03T13:43:30Z")
Radio Heaters — Why in the world would a radio need a heater anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/8 "2018-04-03T13:50:10Z")
Please explain what a radio heater was. A quick search shows some “retro” space heaters that look like radios. Are they in-dash electric heaters that radiate heat? Truck stops sell 12 volt space heaters to this day. ---
**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/9 "2018-04-03T16:34:20Z")
A tube-type car radio would have made a great footwarmer! Make it wide and not too tall. Keep the controls in the dash. PS - the tube type car radios of my youth (GM, Ford) were head and shoulders better in sensitivity, selectivity, noise rejection, and sound quality than the transistor radios (GM, Toyota, etc.) that “replaced” them in the early 1960s-70s. ---
**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/10 "2018-04-03T17:01:01Z")
Maybe the tube type radios were better then the first transistor radios, but they sucked power. You could kill a battery running the radio without the engine going. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/11 "2018-04-03T18:23:07Z")
Maybe he/she meant “radial” heaters. Never heard of either one though. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/12 "2018-04-03T20:24:06Z")
I’ve never heard of a “radio heater” either. Random Troll, can you please describe what you’re referring to? ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/13 "2018-04-03T20:31:14Z")
The only things I found [https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Radio\_Heaters](https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Radio_Heaters) [http://www.strayfield.co.uk/](http://www.strayfield.co.uk/) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTruck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@ChrisTruck](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTruck)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/14 "2018-04-03T20:53:02Z")
> [@RandomTroll](#): > > Does anyone else remember radio heaters? Nobody here seems to remember them, including me. ---
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/15 "2018-04-03T21:57:53Z")
> [@Triedaq](#): > > Back in those days, a radio and a heater were options. This may be where the OP comes up with “'radio heater”. Got it! I remember reading the used-car ads in the classified ('50s & '60s); some would advertise ‘radio heater’ (no comma). I wondered what a radio heater was. (I was young.) ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/16 "2018-04-03T22:11:07Z")
@RandomTroll Glad the radio heater mystery is solved. Here are some other classified ad abbreviations from the 1950s: OD overdrive FOM Ford-O- Matic automatic transmission Ford cars MOM Merc-O-Matic automatic transmission Mercury cars PG PowerGlide Chevrolet cars with automatic transmission PS. Power steering PB. Power brakes Full Power power steering and power brakes ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/17 "2018-04-03T22:39:05Z")
> [@VOLVO\_V70](#): > > Why in the world would a radio need a heater anyway? Well, in case you’re too young to recall “The Good Old Days”, tube-type radios–both home models and those installed in cars–did take a while to warm-up. If only there had been heaters to speed-up that process… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/18 "2018-04-04T02:59:37Z")
@VDCdriver In the old days, we called the filament in the vacuum tube heaters. The filament heated the cathode. There was a difference in potential between the cathode and the plate, so the electrons would flow from the cathode to the plate. The rate of flow was controlled by an element called the grid. The first car my parents owned that had a radio was a 1947 DeSoto coupe that was purchased in 1954. My mother was going back to work and a second car was needed. I was in 8th grade at the time and didn’t think the DeSoto with its faded maroon paint was cool and I let my feelings be known. My Dad didn’t say a word, but the next day he came home with rubbing compound, cleaner, polish and wax and it became my job to make the car look cool. I spent 3 days making that DeSoto look cool. I then tackled the radio which didn’t work. I found that the vibrator as it was called was defective. The vibrator changed the 6 volt direct current to a pulsating current that was fed to some sort of transformer that stepped up the voltage. The output of the transformer went to a rectifier tube where the output voltage was converted to direct current and fed to the plates of the tubes. This high voltage on the plates caused the electrons to flow from the cathode to the plate. The radio in the DeSoto was an AM radio. It had an 8" speaker and for that time period, had a good tone. At night, here in East Central Indiana we could pick up a station in Nashville, TN that had.a.program called “Randy’s Record Shop”. With the shined up maroon paint and that great radio that I think was made by Motorola for Chrysler products, that DeSoto coupe became cool. ---
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/19 "2018-04-04T04:37:19Z")
> [@Triedaq](#): > > The vibrator changed the 6 volt direct current to a pulsating current that was fed to some sort of transformer that stepped up the voltage. A vibrator is a relay that turns on and off at a fixed rate. The only one I worked with was 100/second. Aircraft radios had 400/second vibrators. The higher the frequency, the lower the capacitance and inductance needed; capacitors and inductors were expensive and heavy. Modern switching power supplies (what all semiconductor equipment uses) use transistors to do the same thing, typically at 100K/second. If you need 1 farad (huge, I know, just for illustration) at 60 Hz, you need only 63 microfarads at 100K. Those wall-warts that used to be heavy and run hot? They’re now cool efficient switching power supplies. ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926/20 "2018-04-04T14:20:36Z")
@RandomTroll. Back in the late 1950s, vacuum tubes were developed where the plate operated at 12 volts. This eliminated the need for a vibrator to pulsate the voltage which was then stepped up by some type of transformer and then rectified to supply DC voltage to the tube plates. My parents had a 1960 Rambler that had a radio with these tubes. However, transistors soon replaced all vacuum tubes in car radios. My parents later bought a 1963 Studebaker Lark and the radio was all transistor. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/radio-heaters/114926.md?page=2)