# Question about new tire placement **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [April 29, 2026, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574 "2026-04-29T15:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/86 "2026-05-08T15:21:17Z")
Here I thought is was short for ruh-roh Shaggy.šŸ˜€ ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/87 "2026-05-08T16:05:09Z")
> [@CapriRacer](#): > > RR = rolling resistance! So if I wanted to install a high mileage rated low rolling resistance year-round tire with white letters on the passenger forward of my Mazda SUV with a hybrid power train I should ask for a **CX-50H LRR UTQG800 A/S RWL RF** tire? And please reset the TPMSā€¦šŸ˜€ ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/88 "2026-05-08T17:24:48Z")
Anytime Iā€™ve seen R and R on an invoice it meant remove and replace. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/89 "2026-05-08T18:08:41Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Anytime Iā€™ve seen R and R on an invoice it meant remove and replace I believe that is called a polysemous acronymā€¦ You have to look at the context it is being used inā€¦ Have you every looked at your courtesy check or inspection sheet? Most of the time they have your tread depths and or brake pad/shoe remaining thickness, they are beside the LF, RF, RR, LR Here is Firestones, the tires are spelt out, but the brakes are acronymsā€¦ ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/4/6416df4398b61198a2b7ef75c81094045b317962.jpeg) Here is a random one pulled off the net, itā€™s tires are in acronymsā€¦ ![Screenshot 2026-05-08 130136](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/0/d06a1c57a4fe5652749211d5b7bc687970f81ab8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/90 "2026-05-08T18:24:22Z")
Yeah acura does that. Then Steph comes and explains it to me. I get all greens but I did get a yellow to change the brake fluid. An hour more and $100 and all was fine. Hope I didnā€™t get off topic. I actually donā€™t know which topic this was from. Just in case, every time I get in the car and start it, I check the fuel level and the tpms. Caught a nail in the tire once before the wife was heading out of state. Saves the knees. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/91 "2026-05-08T19:34:07Z")
Iā€™m not a big fan of RWL tires, fwiw They look good initially, but will look rather faded after not too long, imo ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/92 "2026-05-08T22:27:19Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > I should ask for a **CX-50H LRR UTQG800 A/S RWL RF** tire? Just the names of the second-to-last set of tires on my car was almost that long: _Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus II_ RWL ā€œRun while low(pressure)ā€? ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/93 "2026-05-08T22:42:41Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > RWL ā€œRun while low(pressure) From your Thread you startedā€¦ > [@Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case](https://community.cartalk.com/t/re-wide-vs-narrow-tires-i-rest-my-case/199522/191): > > The old Chevy had Indy 500 RWLā€™s on it, now it has OWLā€™s on it, my fun car has OWLā€™s but I turned them black outā€¦ I donā€™t think my Tacoma would look good with OWLā€™s, I have seen a few and just doesnā€™t go with the body linesā€¦ All depends on the vehicle and the stanceā€¦ RWL = raised white letters (solid) OWL = outline white letters I agree, never understood the Vogue thing, but sure made some money selling them, guys would about put a 3rd mortgage and sell off a kid to buy those thingsā€¦ ā€¦ But to save you timeā€¦ RWL = raised white letters (solid) OWL = outline white letters WSW = white sidewall BSW = black sidewall As a Tire Whisperer, I am surprised you donā€™t know this, it has been mentioned more than once on hereā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/94 "2026-05-08T23:06:33Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > But to save you timeā€¦ > > RWL = raised white letters (solid) > OWL = outline white letters > WSW = white sidewall > BSW = black sidewall > > As a Tire Whisperer, I am surprised you donā€™t know this, it has been mentioned more than once on hereā€¦ Thank you for that breakdown of tire graphics, appreciated. Now Iā€™ll be straight up front with all of you: Iā€™ve had life-long learning difficulties that make it hard for me to remember or understand which acronyms mean what, in any context, automotive or otherwise. What concepts you may grasp after it being explained to you once, or maybe twice, may not get through to me after 4 or 5 times being explained, if at all. And itā€™s not about me not ā€œpaying attentionā€ or not ā€œfocusingā€. Iā€™m in the same classroom you all are in, looking at the same board, listening to the same teacher next to it. Itā€™s just that what that teacher says doesnā€™t get into my brain, after 5 times, the way it does for you once or twice. Iā€™ve genuinely been like this all my life, and itā€™s severely stunted my ability to grow in my jobs, and stunted my earning ability accordingly. And the ones in the room, or at work, who did grasp things quickly would cover their mouth and whisper to each other and point at me. Iā€™m not looking for anyoneā€™s pitty, Iā€™m just looking for understanding. The same way ā€œOh, my carā€™s gas mileage is in the toiletā€ - Well sir your eng air-filter is clogged with dust and mouse feces, and your tires are all 5-10psi under aired. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/95 "2026-05-09T01:28:21Z")
RWLs or OWLs look great again with Westleyā€™s Bleach Right whitewall cleaner. I have not had a can of that stuff around for over 40 years! Used it on my whitewalls. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/96 "2026-05-09T12:46:57Z")
Only takes a bit of scrubbing to get the white letters white again. When I switched to Michelins on my truck, no white letters, OWL, , I kind of miss them. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 12:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/97 "2026-05-09T12:52:19Z")
I think you are joking. When I buy new tires I erase arch the tires that meet my requirements, then print out the tire I want. Take the printout to the tire dealer. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/98 "2026-05-09T12:55:08Z")
Yes, that too. In the 60s at the service station we charged according to a flat rate manual, it used R&R as remove and replace. And I learned a new term today: polysemous acronym. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/99 "2026-05-09T15:17:55Z")
> [@Purebred](#): > > we charged according to a flat rate manual, it used R&R as remove and replace R&R is still different than RR, but I get your pointā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574/100 "2026-05-09T23:49:38Z")
> [@Purebred](#): > > I think you are joking Yes, I was. > [@davesmopar](#): > > R&R is still different than RR, but I get your point Letā€™s not forget R&R is different than R&I when looking in a labor guide. R&I an engine is remove and install. For instance, if you have to remove the engine from a car so the body shop can do a frame repair. You just take it out and put it back in. R&R is remove and replace. For instance, youā€™re removing an engine and replacing it with another one. You may have to swap manifolds, hoses, accessories like alternator and water pump, drain the oil, etc. You know what Iā€™m talking aboutā€¦ [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/question-about-new-tire-placement/205574.md?page=4)