# Puzzler Answer -- Wrong! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Show\ **Tags:** tacoma, toyota\ **Created:** [October 24, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575 "2009-10-24T18:48:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EDC018](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/edc018/32/3109_2.png) [@EDC018](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EDC018)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/1 "2009-10-24T18:48:05Z")
Has anyone else noticed – they got the answer wrong to the football question? There are at least two ways for a team without a placekicker to score an odd number of points: One is called a Conversion Safety, and it’s worth one point. To quote Wikipedia, “While safeties are generally worth two points, they are worth one when they occur during a point-after attempt.” (See [http://en…\_score%29.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_%28football_score%29.)) Another way is by forfeit – the score is then 1-0. ---
**Author:** ![EDC018](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/edc018/32/3109_2.png) [@EDC018](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EDC018)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/2 "2009-10-25T15:08:26Z")
That link should read (after the //) > **[Safety (gridiron football score)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_(football_score))** > > In gridiron football, the safety (American football) or safety touch (Canadian football) is a scoring play that results in two points (or, in rare cases, one point) being awarded to the scoring team. Safeties can be scored in a number of ways, such as when a ball carrier is tackled in his own end zone or when a foul is committed by the offense in their own end zone. After a safety is scored in American football, the ball is kicked off to the team that scored the safety from the 20-yard line; in C... ---
**Author:** ![weindan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4da419/32.png) [@weindan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weindan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/3 "2009-10-25T16:14:22Z")
Yes, I was going to post this also! ---
**Author:** ![dmouse77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@dmouse77](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dmouse77)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/4 "2009-10-26T21:11:56Z")
Also, you don’t need to have a place kicker to score field goals or extra point. From Wikipedia - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop\_kick](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick). Doug Flutie scored on a drop kick back in 2006. I only noticed this because one of the Colorado high school teams had a drop kick field goal scored a month or two ago. ---
**Author:** ![jadebox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/jadebox/32/5712_2.png) [@jadebox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jadebox)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/5 "2009-10-30T00:12:28Z")
When I first heard the Puzzler the week before, I dismissed the “odd-score” answer right off the bat since they specifically mentioned schools which would, generally, have the “one-point safety” rule. So, is there any correct answer? ---
**Author:** ![Caller\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8797f3/32.png) [@Caller\_X](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caller_X)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/6 "2009-10-30T15:32:19Z")
There are two correct answers: the team without a placekicker cannot field a placekicker, and cannot score points on a placekicker’s kick. ---
**Author:** ![Dave52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/77aa72/32.png) [@Dave52](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Dave52)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/puzzler-answer-wrong/38575/7 "2009-11-03T11:49:44Z")
Would they also have to drop kick for kickoffs?