# Pre-ignition catalytic converter **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [August 3, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560 "2007-08-03T01:23:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![call2wrshp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@call2wrshp](https://community.cartalk.com/u/call2wrshp)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/1 "2007-08-03T01:23:35Z")
Has anyone ever heard of this? It is supposed to double mileage but it sounds too good to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Roadrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Roadrunner](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Roadrunner)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/2 "2007-08-03T01:58:12Z")
Nope and like always, if it sounds too good to be true, it likely is. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/3 "2007-08-03T03:28:35Z")
Is this device from the Perpetual Motion Corporation? Or possibly the mysterous Rochester Caburater area 51 Division? Please advise. ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/4 "2007-08-03T03:48:42Z")
Too good to be true about sums it up. Converts any liquid to a totally clean burning fuel. After shave lotion? Breathe the exhaust right out of the pipe? Where’s the eyes rolling smileys when you need them. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/joseph_e_meehan/32/21_2.png) [@Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Joseph_E_Meehan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 11:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/5 "2007-08-03T11:31:05Z")
Same. These things come from the same type of people who brought the Nigerian bank transfer deals. ---
**Author:** ![Roadrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Roadrunner](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Roadrunner)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/6 "2007-08-03T14:50:08Z")
If people insist on attempting to scam the public, you’d think they’d use a little more imagination eh? ---
**Author:** ![mcparadise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mcparadise/32/32_2.png) [@mcparadise](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mcparadise)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/7 "2007-08-03T14:52:19Z")
If there were a device, ANY device, that could double mileage it would be factory-installed on every car on the planet. It’s a scam, nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![call2wrshp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@call2wrshp](https://community.cartalk.com/u/call2wrshp)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/8 "2007-08-03T16:22:49Z")
Yeah, that’s what I figured. Thanks for the feedback. No, it’s not from area 51, but it is from some guy who also advertizes the Hummingird motor. That has quite a bit of negative feedback on the web. ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pre-ignition-catalytic-converter/2560/9 "2007-08-03T17:58:45Z")
I’ve seen a lot of loopy gimmicks, but that Hummingbird motor site and all of the garbage on there falls into the downright insane category. That has to be the goofiest, most fraudulent thing I’ve seen in my lifetime and I barely even brushed the text. Got to love that guy. Been arrested a dozen times and never went to jail for fraud; ergo, he’s innocent. Gone “on tour” to raise money and the state attorney generals did not have him arrested; again, that proves he’s innocent. The Feds, state, FTC, Big Business, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, etc are all out to “get” both him and us. Holding 120 Woodstock type gatherings with 16000 people at each meeting as “witnesses” to these miracles; a number of “witnesses” so large the media (part of the plot) cannot ignore. Wow.