# Power packs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 7, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526 "2015-07-07T04:47:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/1 "2015-07-07T04:47:35Z")
Gentlemen, I could use your help. A very good friend and neighbor, with whom I bird watch and chat in my yard on good weather days, asked me about power packs today. Never having had or needed one, I was unable to offer any advice other than discussing useless stuff like lead-acid vs. lithium-ion and junk. Your thoughts on the subject are welcome. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/2 "2015-07-07T04:50:04Z")
For what application may I ask? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 4:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/3 "2015-07-07T04:52:08Z")
Jumping a car. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 4:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/4 "2015-07-07T04:57:00Z")
I don’t need one but a family member has one he got from Amazon that is rechargeable and will not travel without it. He claims it is safer to use than jumper cables. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 5:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/5 "2015-07-07T05:00:48Z")
I agree with your family member. Less accidental hydrogen ignition worries. On a late, dark night in a downpour it can be easy to make a mistake. Power packs have on-off switches. Jumper leads don’t. Has he used it? Do you know what kind it is? Has it worked well? ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/6 "2015-07-07T05:04:40Z")
Sorry I don’t know the brand. Yes he has used it several times. His dopey son gets in the van and leaves lights on and doors open while playing on his lap top. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/7 "2015-07-07T05:11:02Z")
Sounds like a good solution for him. I never used mine, it lost its charge. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/8 "2015-07-07T05:21:14Z")
Thanks guys. Folks, keep the info coming. Volvo, that at least gives me confidence that there is at least one power pack affordable to the average consumer on a budget will do the job. That increases my optimism that there are others. Texases, you take good care of your cars. I guess all I can say is “me too”… that’s why I totally lack knowledge of portable power packs. ---
**Author:** ![B.L.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@B.L.E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/B.L.E)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/9 "2015-07-07T06:20:03Z")
If I had one, it would probably be dead if I ever had to use it, besides, I have a manual transmission, and I usually park on a hill. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/10 "2015-07-07T07:44:22Z")
I guess I am getting old, when I saw power pack I was thinking 55-56 Chevys and what they called the 4 barrell carb option:) ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 8:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/11 "2015-07-07T08:05:19Z")
LOL, that never even occurred to me. But it does bring back memories. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/12 "2015-07-07T18:01:19Z")
Hard to beat one of these babies… $65, an air pump, a trouble light, a USB port and lighter plug to charge your phone, built in re-charger AND jumper cables with a on/off switch so the jumpers are not always hot. AGM non-spillable battery inside. Hard to beat the utility and the price. I have one and it works great! > **[Stanley 'FatMax' 700-Amp Peak Jump Starter with Compressor & \*Bonus\*...](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-FatMax-700-Amp-Peak-Jump-Starter-with-Compressor-amp-Bonus-Road-Side-Service-J7CSR/38243769?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227028150559&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=59604470088&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=84660902208&veh=sem)** > > Buy Stanley 'FatMax' 700-Amp Peak Jump Starter with Compressor & \*Bonus\* Road-Side Service #J7CSR at Walmart.com ---
**Author:** ![missileman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/missileman/32/1366_2.png) [@missileman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/missileman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/13 "2015-07-07T18:47:52Z")
I still use a set of 40 year old jumper cables (premium set). All the power packs that I have seen lose their charge rather quickly. A guy I know at the local flea market has a dozen or so on his table and none of them work. The battery terminal clips on all of them look brand new so I don’t think that they ever had a chance to be used before they went bad. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/14 "2015-07-07T18:52:43Z")
Thanks guys. That Stanley looks like it could do just about anything. I wondered about charge retention. I guess nothing will hold a charge forever. Which leaves me to wonder… perhaps charging times will be a factor. Perhaps he could plug it in once a week for a few hours. At least now I have some information to offer. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/15 "2015-07-07T18:59:20Z")
You have to remember to charge them every couple of months. I never remember to charge them and so they discharge and then won’t hold a charge. I finally stopped buying them. I have AAA - they’ll jump me if I need it. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/16 "2015-07-07T20:52:40Z")
A lithium pack should hold its charge for a long time, assuming its not kept in a roasting hot trunk all the time. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/17 "2015-07-07T21:05:33Z")
True - I stopped buying before lithium was a thing in the jump packs.] That said, if it’s not kept in the trunk all the time, what’s the point of having it? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/18 "2015-07-07T21:40:17Z")
The lithium packs are small enough to go in the glove box: ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/19 "2015-07-07T22:14:17Z")
I’d stay way from the lithium packs for now because of the possibility of fire and expense. They are the best type to leave on the shelf and ignore and the lightest. High temps experienced inside a glovebox in Arizona or west Texas in August could burn your car to the ground. Li-ion fires, once started, are pretty much impossible to stop. My last AGM pack lasted about 5 years and died because I neglected to charge it periodically… and the age for sure. The Stanley recommends charging once a week even if not used or, if you don’t leave it in the car, leave it plugged in so it is always ready. Kind of like leaving a car on a Battery Tender. ---
**Author:** ![researcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@researcher](https://community.cartalk.com/u/researcher)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526/20 "2015-07-07T22:39:13Z")
The last time I had to be jump started by AAA, they brought over a Power Pack even though the tow truck had extended cables. The Power Pack did a masterful job of starting a Camary with a bad battery cell. I knew it was weak but I kept putting the replacement off. One advantage of the Power Pack is that you don’t risk the electronics of the donor car in a Jump start. Consider the dynamics, the donor car is charging the donee car’s battery; the donee car cranks drawing the voltage down to 9 VDC of less; and then the donee car starts and begins charging so the voltage jumps high, not to mention any voltage spike of the starter solenoid releasing. This is in addition to misconnecting the leads or causing a hydrogen gas explosion. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/power-packs/90526.md?page=2)