# Pax Run Flat Tires **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** odyssey, honda\ **Created:** [December 1, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215 "2009-12-01T11:01:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smithereyenes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smithereyenes](https://community.cartalk.com/u/smithereyenes)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/1 "2009-12-01T11:01:34Z")
I hope I am posting this in the right place…I have a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring Edition with the Michelin Pax Run Flat tires. Right now I am in need of 4 new ones at a cost of about $1300. Honda tells me that there is no other tire I can put on here unless I replace the rims at a cost of several thousand dollars. Other tire places treat me as if I am an imbecile when I give them the rim size since it is not the norm. Please, can anyone help? Is there another tire I can put on this car? My tires are badly bald (most certainly illegal to drive on) and I just don’t have the money to lay out for this. ---
**Author:** ![andrew\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@andrew\_j](https://community.cartalk.com/u/andrew_j)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/2 "2009-12-01T12:14:56Z")
The horrible truth is no other tire is offered as this system is a failure and introduced by Michelin. Personally I would visit the junkyard(auto recylers) and find a similar year non PAX Ody and buy the wheels with tires. You will have a TMPS light stuck on for the rest of the vehicle life but at least never face $1300 replacement costs. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/joseph_e_meehan/32/21_2.png) [@Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Joseph_E_Meehan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/3 "2009-12-01T12:22:45Z")
I would forget the fancy looking rims. Generally the expensive alloy rims are not at strong as basic steel rims. I suspect you will be able to find steel rims to fit your car and you can buy inexpensive wheel covers and use stand type tyres. That system was a bad idea from the start. ---
**Author:** ![edb1961](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/edb1961/32/122_2.png) [@edb1961](https://community.cartalk.com/u/edb1961)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/4 "2009-12-01T13:36:23Z")
Try Tire Rack, [www.tirerack.com](http://www.tirerack.com). The site lists 235/65R16 as the alternate size for the Odyssey. The site states the PAX system tires are only available through Honda. Tire Rack has 19 tires in this size from $100-$150 apiece [http://www.tirerack.com/tires/SelectTireSize.jsp?autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Odyssey+EX&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=](http://www.tirerack.com/tires/SelectTireSize.jsp?autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Odyssey+EX&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=) Tire Rack has steel rims at $54 and a few alloy rims for $100-120 apiece. You would have to talk to Tire Rack about how to handle the TPMS setup on the van. I have steel rims (OEM) and plastic wheel covers on my wife’s 2006 Sienna. Not as pretty as alloy rims, but a lot easier to take care of. Good luck, Ed B. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/5 "2009-12-01T16:57:40Z")
Call your local salvage yards and find a set of standard steel wheels that will fit your Odyssey. You may even have a choice of diameters, 15", 16", 17"… Normal Salvage price is $100/set of four…Take the wheels to a tire store and have set of tires installed. 15" and 16" wheels will provide you with the most tire choices and reasonable prices. You can buy a set of 4 wheel-covers at Walmart for $25… Run-Flats…The only thing that gets run flat is your wallet… ---
**Author:** ![smithereyenes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smithereyenes](https://community.cartalk.com/u/smithereyenes)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/6 "2009-12-01T21:29:38Z")
Thanks everyone for the replies. You have given me some great suggestions that I will most certainly check into. I just can’t keep up with these tires anymore. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/pax-run-flat-tires/40215/7 "2009-12-01T23:39:29Z")
You may want to write to Honda. See if they have a replacement program for the wheel/tire combination. There may be a TSB out on this. Honda had so many complaints about these wheels & tires that they started replacing them on the Odysseys with a conventional rim/tire combination when requested by purchasers.