# Opinion on 2013 Kia Soul,trade in or repair

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271>\
**Category:** Buying/Selling\
**Tags:** soul, kia\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271 "2018-03-07T14:01:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blah-blah\_blah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Blah-blah\_blah](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Blah-blah_blah)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/1 "2018-03-07T14:01:59Z")

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I have a 2013 Kia Soul. Recently the engine blew out on me. it was lack Of oil. I noticed since I had the oil and filters changed I was constantly putting more and more oil in.

I don’t know much about cars

But I was told instead of purchasing a new engine to just see about doing a trade in. I guess I just wanted to know if it’s possible and to get other people opinions only because I’m mostly stuck.

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**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/2 "2018-03-07T14:10:54Z")

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If you trade it in, the amount you’ll get will be reduced by the price of a replacement engine anyway, plus some additional amount to allow for the fact that the buyer can’t drive the car to be sure that nothing else is wrong, so I don’t think that’s a good idea.

I’d buy a remanufactured engine or if necessary a used engine and try to get the rest of the normal life out of this car, making sure to keep the fluids at the right level this time.

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**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/3 "2018-03-07T14:12:20Z")

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Car will be worth only junk value with a blown engine, a few hundred dollars. So trade in will not work.

Look into getting a rebuilt engine, or even one from a junk yard, although the latter is risky.

sounds like your drain plug or filter was loose. Did you check those? Where did you get the oil changed? Jiffy Lube? they are known for doing things like this.

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**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/4 "2018-03-07T14:13:51Z")

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Kia has a 5 year, 60,000 miles powertrain warranty.Its extended to 10 years for oriignal owner.  
Warranty Coverage  
• Basic Warranty Coverage  
Except as limited or excluded below, all components  
of your new Kia Vehicle are covered for 60  
months/60,000 miles from the Date of First Service,  
whichever comes first (Basic Limited Warranty  
Coverage). This Warranty does not cover wear and  
maintenance items, or those items excluded  
elsewhere in the Manual. See “Exceptions” and  
“What is Not Covered.”  
• Power Train Coverage  
For Original Owners (defined below), the Power  
Train Limited Warranty begins upon expiration of the  
60 month/60,000 mile Basic Limited Warranty  
Coverage, and will continue to cover the following  
components up to 120 months or 100,000 miles from  
the Date of First Service, whichever comes first. It  
does not cover normal wear and tear, maintenance, or  
those items excluded elsewhere in this manual. See  
“Exceptions” and “What is Not Covered.”  
The items covered by the Power Train Limited  
Warranty include:

- In the Engine: Cylinder block, cylinder head and  
all internal parts, timing gear, seals and gaskets,  
valve cover, flywheel, oil pump, water pump and  
turbo charger.
- In the Transaxle: Transmission case and all  
internal parts, torque converter, drive shafts,  
universal joints, front hubs, bearings, seals and  
gaskets.
- In the Axles: Axle shafts and C-V joints  
(couplings), seals, hub and wheel bearings.
- In the Transmission: Transmission case, transfer  
case, torque converter and all internal parts, seals,  
and gaskets.

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**Author:** ![Blah-blah\_blah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Blah-blah\_blah](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Blah-blah_blah)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/5 "2018-03-07T14:14:14Z")

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Good Morning

I had both the oil and filter done at the Kia dealership

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**Author:** ![Blah-blah\_blah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Blah-blah\_blah](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Blah-blah_blah)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/6 "2018-03-07T14:21:29Z")

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Thank you so much  
I did purchase a engine but was having horrible issues with the mechanic. He seemed to be upset because I wouldn’t go his way of purchasing the used engine after I repeatedly told him I didn’t have the money at all for what he wanted to do.

I found a used engine from some where else and had it ship to the mechanic shop. Unfortunately for me I purchased the wrong engine. Before I made the purchase I asked the mechanic repeatedly before during after if I was purchasing the right engine he never said anything even after I told him what it was. He never even called once the engine got there to tell me it was there and the wrong one I didn’t find out until I called him. So now I’m coming out of pocket again to ship the engine back and ordering a new one

That’s the reason I asked about the trade in

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**Author:** ![Blah-blah\_blah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Blah-blah\_blah](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Blah-blah_blah)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/7 "2018-03-07T14:24:16Z")

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Good Morning

Thank you so much for this information

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/8 "2018-03-07T14:27:24Z")

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> [@Blah-blah\_blah](#):
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> I found a used engine from some where else and had it ship to the mechanic shop.

That is how you alienate mechanics when you need their help the most. Send the wrong engine back and either find a new mechanic or let the person do their job. A mechanic does not have to stand behind any work they do when the customer provides parts.

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**Author:** ![Ben-T\_Spanner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@Ben-T\_Spanner](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ben-T_Spanner)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/9 "2018-03-07T14:28:19Z")

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Black Book trade in for average condition, with 100,000 miles would be $4000. Deduct for more milage and deduct the cost of the new to you USED engine. Present value is scrap.  
Question: If you supply the engine, and it is no good, who pays the labor for the second removal and installation. Hint: It won’t be the mechanic.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/opinion-on-2013-kia-soul-trade-in-or-repair/113271/10 "2018-03-07T14:36:17Z")

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> [@COROLLAGUY1](#):
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> Kia has a 5 year, 60,000 miles powertrain warranty.Its extended to 10 years for oriignal owner. [/quote]
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> > [@Blah-blah\_blah](#):
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> > **the engine blew out on me. it was lack Of oil**
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> Failure to check the oil, and to maintain an adequate level of oil in the crankcase, constitutes owner negligence, and no warranty provides coverage for repairs resulting from owner negligence.
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> If the OP can somehow prove that the dealership that did the previous oil change was at fault, then he may be able to get a settlement from the dealership, but–in any event–the vehicle manufacturer is not responsible for warranty coverage in a situation like this.
