# Old blue rides again!

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [January 24, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806 "2015-01-24T05:35:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/1 "2015-01-24T05:35:59Z")

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1975 ford f100 supercab-360cu in

well I got my cab supports installed. got the floor pans in, good brakes all the way around, fix a flat in my front tires, clean oil and a filter!

she rides much better. and stops even!

nice to feel safe in the old beast again.

well kinda safe. that steering damper ain t quite right. I know, I installed it a couple of months ago…

…and I wonder if kingpins are important? I need to check those things…

…anyone know anything about kingpins?

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/2 "2015-01-24T05:47:15Z")

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Good to hear your truck is rolling down the road again. Have all the suspension and steering grease fittings been lubed recently? Sometimes my Ford truck will steer a little weird, balky, shake a little during turns, if those have lost their lubrication & stiffened up.

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/3 "2015-01-24T05:50:26Z")

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yeah I greased her up last spring

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/4 "2015-01-24T05:51:08Z")

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probably only 100 miles on it since then…

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/5 "2015-01-24T05:53:18Z")

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I remember Ray talking about replacing king pins on the show. I’ve never had to do it, but I expect replacing them isn’t an uncommon thing on vehicles which have them. Why do you think there’s a problem with the kingpins? Do you observe some play in them?

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/6 "2015-01-24T06:08:57Z")

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oh, I don t know. I ve never had a problem with one, so I m due I guess. the wheel doesn’t seem quite plumb to me. it moves a bit when you jack it up. the bottom kinda slips inboard. both sides really. I don t really have a good idea how it all works yet. I ll read my manual, if those pages aren t too greasy…

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/7 "2015-01-24T06:09:58Z")

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it rides straight if I let go of the wheel

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/8 "2015-01-24T06:25:48Z")

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Went for a decade at least in my f100 without power steering, high pressure hose @$450 fix, Power steering is for sissies!

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/9 "2015-01-24T07:15:57Z")

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If you need to replace the kingpins, it’s a bit of work

The new bushings need to be reamed to fit the new kingpins. Plus there are upper and lower shims. It needs a certain amount of clearance, not too much, not too little

If you have kept them greased regularly, they might just be okay

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 7:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/10 "2015-01-24T07:21:28Z")

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Kingpins are just like any other front end component, If they let the wheel move and you see movement at that component , you have to replace it. The kingpins job is to let the spindle that holds the wheel rotate around a vertical axis without letting the spindle move in any other direction. I remember them as being difficult to remove and usually requiring a torch.

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**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/11 "2015-01-24T23:23:52Z")

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Just a warning, fix-a-flat has a lot of water in it and if left in the tire, it will rust the rims from the inside.

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/12 "2015-01-25T05:19:04Z")

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yeah, rusty rims are why I need the fix a flat… 🙂

I do label them with a paint stick on the inside so the tire guys will be aware. I got cursed once for not telling a guy at a junkyard in Plymouth MA. that I had added fix a flat. not cursed in a bad way, just for educational purposes…

plan is to clean up the old wagon wheel rims and paint them black. I m using the hubcaps from a 76 parts truck I had right now. in a perfect world I d powder coat them, but NAPA engine enamel is more likely…

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/13 "2015-01-25T05:38:12Z")

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Besides from the misinformation you received from someone on this board, Fix-A-Flat is temporary repair for a tire. It’s used to get you to a place to get the tire repaired/replaced

Repair or replace the tires the Fix-A-Flat was used.

Tester

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/14 "2015-01-25T05:44:20Z")

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yes tester I m aware. the fix a flat is my own idea and responsibility.

next month i hope to be able to afford two good used tires for the front. i ll sand and paint the rims before they are mounted. until then i m tired of dragging the compressor out every few days, depending on how i park. if they hold air for 28 more days i m golden.

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/15 "2015-01-25T05:47:53Z")

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the rims are rusty, that s why i m losing air. the tires are crap in front anyway, it s time for new ones.

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**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/16 "2015-01-25T06:26:07Z")

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Some Ford king pins use plastic bushings and can be replaced fairly easily but if put off too long the pin will wear through the bushing and damage the spindle.

[http://www.theautopartsshop.com/auto+car-usa+parts+year/ford+f\_100+steering-king-pin-set+1975.html](http://www.theautopartsshop.com/auto+car-usa+parts+year/ford+f_100+steering-king-pin-set+1975.html)

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/17 "2015-01-25T17:59:02Z")

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thanks rod. its 40 yrs old now and was used in the woods, hauling firewood before i got it. i m concerned about the kingpins. praying for spring in January and February this year. when my daughter gets out of school in 5yrs, i m heading south a little. coastal north Carolina and Virginia have most of the same flora and fauna, and less cold weather.

i ve pretty much decided to keep old blue forever. my son told me that a fellow rebuilding a 73 was interested in buying it, but i said no. heck, the grill alone is worth a bit of cash and that old 360 may outlast the frame…

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/18 "2015-01-25T21:59:11Z")

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@wesw‌

About the kingpins . . .

Does the truck squeak when making slow turns?

Does the steering feel loose?

Any odd noises from the front end?

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**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/old-blue-rides-again/88806/19 "2015-01-26T17:07:55Z")

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no, its ok in that regard.
