# Obscured license plates **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 11, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362 "2011-06-11T15:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/21 "2011-06-14T16:27:59Z")
Went there when I was very much younger. Appropriate that it was on Talent Road. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/22 "2011-06-14T16:38:33Z")
Never been there…but you could pick up the shows on the radio in his house…By then it was all porn…Interesting place…The screen was the side of a house or barn… We do still go to the Milford Drive-in…Little different for family entertainment…My youngest loves it… ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/23 "2011-06-14T17:02:22Z")
It was always all adult. It was famous. It closed many years ago with the advent of VHS tapes. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/24 "2011-06-14T17:14:36Z")
When I heard about it…it closed about a year later… ---
**Author:** ![chaissos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/chaissos/32/2347_2.png) [@chaissos](https://community.cartalk.com/u/chaissos)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/25 "2011-06-14T22:04:02Z")
Not sure when it closed, as I left town in '85. Went there with the wife…before she was the wife 😉 Interesting place, to be sure. didn’t stay too long…had a nice bar to get to. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/26 "2011-06-14T23:01:00Z")
A true landmark. Hey, I lived in Sawmill Brook on Garden Drive from about '82 to '96. Were you near there? ---
**Author:** ![chaissos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/chaissos/32/2347_2.png) [@chaissos](https://community.cartalk.com/u/chaissos)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/27 "2011-06-14T23:22:16Z")
Brown ave, just a ways from the airport. Used to race around there from time to time on that (almost) closed road. Way back before it was “international”. Had to show a few people that it’s not the bike, it’s the rider. 🙂 That’s going back just a few… ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/28 "2011-06-15T01:19:37Z")
You must have left just before Passaconaway CC was built…I LOVE that Golf course. ---
**Author:** ![dagosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/dagosa/32/9837_2.png) [@dagosa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dagosa)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/29 "2011-06-16T12:30:01Z")
“Keith” again I apologize for commenting on registration restrictions as penny anti laws, compared to high valued laws like speeding. If people in general knew how valuable car identification was in crime prevention and enforcement and investigation, they might be more aware of how important it is. Even when stopping a speeder, the first thing that is done is to run a check with the dispatcher on the car registration. The speeding is often secondary to the information received as a result. Prior criminal and motor vehicle history actually influences what ever happens afterwards. Very few criminals do not drive a car. Even the most harden one is forced to register or someone is, if they want to drive. It puts an impediment, however small and inconvenient it might be, between they and the law abiding citizen who is victimized. If you think it’s petty, look at the fines they incur and think of them as a part of the monitoring system between the criminal element and the rest of us. I feel this is an important point in this entire discussion of obscured plates, and indirectly, your comments are important as they indicate how these offenses are viewed by many law abiding motorist. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/30 "2011-06-16T17:29:44Z")
I keft about the time Passaconaway was built. Not being a golfer myself, I don’t recall if it was finished or not. I do recall, however, the promises made at town meetings by Rick C. that they (he and John Stabile, the principles in Passaconaway) that they’d build a boat ramp on the river. Don’t know if that ever got built. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/31 "2011-06-16T21:04:53Z")
Yea it was built…It’s right next to the 4th hole. The ONLY people who can possibly use it is the people at Passaconaway… About 5 years ago…the Merrimack flooded…I have pics of the holes by the road under 5’ of water with people on ski-boats driving around…You can see the hole flags sticking up about 2’ over the water…People were playing on the course 4 days after the pics were taken…Course didn’t even show a sign it was ever under water. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/32 "2011-06-17T20:06:06Z")
dagosa, I do understand the importance of vehicle identification. I live in a state that only requires rear plates, I wish that they would go to front and rear plates to make identification easier. I referred to it as a penny ante law because the fine does not match the importance. In this state, running a stop sign is also a penny ante law because the fine is so small. It doesn’t seem so penny ante every time I have to take evasive action because some moron goes through a stop sign right in front of me without even slowing down. It happens a lot around here. Running red lights were penny ante but they have had their status (fines) raised because of red light cameras. But the camera installation is more complex because no front plates. I’m not opposed to red light cameras, but I am disappointed that the motivation for this is revenue and not safety. I could go on ranting about a number of traffic laws that have penny ante fines attached that should be taken more seriously. ---
**Author:** ![dagosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/dagosa/32/9837_2.png) [@dagosa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dagosa)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/33 "2011-06-19T04:13:34Z")
Keith, I hear you now and agree on that point. There are indeed sone penny anti laws. On the motivation for red light cameras being monitory and not safety, I don’t understand. If it is an effective deterrent, does it matter what the motivation is ? In ALL studies I have read, one of the most effective deterrents for criminal / and or motor vehicle violation behavior is not the degree of punishment or amount of the fine though they are important. It is the assuredness of being caught. There is a much better probability that you will be caught going through a red light with cameras, regardless of the fine imposed. How that is viewed by those who always stop and are the ones on the green side knowing that too, is hard to judge. But, if there is an accident as a result of a violation, it would sure feel good if you survived and had the law on your side and knew you were backed by a “camera”. ---
**Author:** ![wxf048](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@wxf048](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wxf048)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 9:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/34 "2011-06-19T09:31:03Z")
One problem, which I can’t attest to personally but have read about, is that some cities supposedly shorten the yellow light time in order to increase red light violations and revenue. That would increase revenue at the cost of safety, rather than enhance safety. I think everyone would agree that’s a bad idea, but if the motivation is money, things like that might happen. ---
**Author:** ![dagosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/dagosa/32/9837_2.png) [@dagosa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dagosa)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362/35 "2011-06-19T11:17:25Z")
Many people see a yellow light as an excuse to accelerate when the opposite is true intent. Google “yellow light time standards” for a suggested solution. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/obscured-license-plates/65362.md?page=1)