# Not very many surprises

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [October 26, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953 "2017-10-26T22:23:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953/1 "2017-10-26T22:23:57Z")

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…in CR’s list of the most-reliable vehicles:

> **[10 Most Reliable Cars](https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/10-most-reliable-cars/?EXTKEY=NWTND1710E)**
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> Consumer Reports' massive annual auto survey reveals the most reliable cars and SUVs. These models shine when it comes to reliability.

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**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953/2 "2017-10-26T23:23:45Z")

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Kia Niro? I don’t think they sold too many of these compare to Lexus and Toyota.

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953/3 "2017-10-27T05:15:19Z")

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Sales numbers only matter if you are looking for parts, esp. in the junkyard.

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953/4 "2017-10-27T18:06:47Z")

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Genius! If you don’t sell any there will be no complaints. I have seen one at the dealer and zero on the roads.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953/5 "2017-10-27T18:32:17Z")

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I’m not sure I’d recognize a Niro on the road without seeing the nameplate.

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**Author:** ![insightful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/insightful/32/2732_2.png) [@insightful](https://community.cartalk.com/u/insightful)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/not-very-many-surprises/108953/6 "2017-10-27T23:11:39Z")

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Lexus ES averages about 4600 sales/mo. Kia Niro about half that.