# No more Ford **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 15, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681 "2016-09-15T20:36:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/141 "2016-09-23T20:20:52Z")
In some ways, our U. S. auto industry was better off when we had the independent manufacturers. These independents kept the big.boys on their toes. Nash pioneered the heating system that brought fresh air into the cabin from the outside as.opposed to just a box under the dashboard. Nash also integrated the heating and air conditioning and the entire system was under the hood and between the dashboard and firewall. Other cars with air conditioning had the evaporator and blower as a separate unit in the trunk. Hudson had the stepdown design with the passenger compartment between the outer frame rails. Studebaker had am automatic transmission with a lockup torque converter in 1951. If I thought long enough, I could probably come up with some other firsts that these independent manufacturers developed in my lifetime. By the way, two of the fastest cars om the road in the mid 1950s were the Studebaker Golden Hawk of 1956 and the limited edition 1957 Rambler Rebel. To an old geezer like me, today’s cars aren’t nearly as exciting as those of the mid 1950s. However, I guess I’ll machine along in my boring Toyota Sienna. ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/142 "2016-09-23T20:48:10Z")
Let’s not forget the Nash reclining seats! ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/143 "2016-09-23T21:17:26Z")
> [@Triedaq](#): > > Hudson had the stepdown design with the passenger compartment between the outer frame rails. Hudson also had a “fail-safe” braking system that automatically applied the e-brake if the hydraulic system failed. ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/144 "2016-09-23T22:38:49Z")
Just remembered the Kaiser Manhattan pop-out windshield. It also had a padded dash of some sorts. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/145 "2016-09-23T22:53:32Z")
Even though Hitler was a decorated war veteran, later in his life he also did “a few” truly evil things ☹ ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/146 "2016-09-23T22:56:18Z")
> [@Docnick](#): > > Just remembered the Kaiser Manhattan pop-out windshield. It also had a padded dash of some sorts. That is true, but the **_Tucker_** also had those features, several years earlier! ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/147 "2016-09-23T23:22:39Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Even though Hitler was a decorated war veteran, later in his life he also did “a few” truly evil things It appears as though I’m not the only natural straight man here who lets jokes sail over his head. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/148 "2016-09-23T23:35:30Z")
😼 ---
**Author:** ![B.L.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@B.L.E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/B.L.E)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/149 "2016-09-24T01:00:55Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > I wish everyone would stop comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. It isn’t fair. > > Hitler was a decorated war veteran. He should never be compared to a lousy draft dodger. Excuse me but I don’t recall anyone comparing Hitler to Bill Clinton. By the way, 11 of the 43 men who held the office of President to this day did not serve in the military in any capacity. Didn’t Studebaker make that Budweiser wagon that those clydesdale horses pull in their commercials? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/150 "2016-09-24T01:07:17Z")
I don’t think it sailed over anyone’s head, I just didn’t think we should move into WW II history after that little bit of diversion already. There’s just too much for a car talk site like WW I reparations, lack of arms by citizens, ye ole frog in the frying pan, his syphilis, Russians being worse than the Nazis afterward, and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/151 "2016-09-24T01:27:12Z")
May 28th, just to bring it back to cars, Automotive 1937 Volkswagen is founded May 28th On this day in 1937, the government of Germany–then under the control of Adolf Hitler of the National Socialist (Nazi) Party–forms a new state-owned automobile company, then known as Gesellschaft zur Vorbereitung des Deutschen Volkswagens mbH. Later that year, it was renamed simply Volkswagenwerk, or “The People’s Car Company.” Then we might remember Hitler introduced the Olympic torch. Not loving trump or hitler, but there is gonna be some good things and some bad things if trump gets elected potus ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/152 "2016-09-24T01:53:45Z")
If Trump gets elected . . . There are some things that will happen, which many on this website think are the best thing since sliced bread was invented And I . . . and hopefully many others on this website . . . will view those same things as the most despicable, hateful, racist, exclusionary, etc. acts, regulations, laws, etc. enacted in a long time ⚠ ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/153 "2016-09-24T02:05:56Z")
rather than edit my post i will say the bad things that will happen will outweigh the good things. ---
**Author:** ![B.L.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@B.L.E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/B.L.E)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/154 "2016-09-24T02:06:28Z")
Sometimes when I read all the hyperbole and drama here, I think the only thing missing is “O Fortuna” playing in the background. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/155 "2016-09-24T02:25:19Z")
Music time? ---
**Author:** ![B.L.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@B.L.E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/B.L.E)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/156 "2016-09-24T02:35:34Z")
Sure, but let’s keep it car related. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/157 "2016-09-24T03:17:37Z")
> [@B.L.E](#): > > ometimes when I read all the hyperbole and drama here What hyperbole? Just repeating Trumps own message and past actions. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/158 "2016-09-24T03:24:34Z")
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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/159 "2016-09-24T03:48:26Z")
Oh boy. I hope you don’t see controlling the borders as hateful, despicable, exclusionary, etc. Its really one of the main duties of government and necessary for maintaining sovereignty. It’s settled law. In United States ex rel. Knauff v. Shaughnessy, 338 U.S. 537 (1950), the U.S. Supreme Court wrote: At the outset we wish to point out that an alien who seeks admission to this country may not do so under any claim of right. Admission of aliens to the United States is a privilege granted by the sovereign United States Government. Such privilege is granted to an alien only upon such terms as the United States shall prescribe. Lincoln warned about being invaded from within and that’s exactly what’s happening in Europe. What good would it do the world if the US becomes just another impotent country, but maybe that’s what some want for their own enrichment. Soros for example. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681/160 "2016-09-24T03:55:08Z")
To be honest before roads and cars and bars had the native american indians claimed the right to close the borders to christians it might be a whole nother place. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681.md?page=7) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-more-ford/95681.md?page=9)