# No longer needing a gas cap? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [September 26, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684 "2012-09-26T00:00:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/d/1d47c66a543aa6c5a7873bb2320858f978ff52ed.png) [@system](https://community.cartalk.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/1 "2012-09-26T00:00:21Z")
This past weekend I rented a car which not only used flex fuel but did not come with a fuel cap. Is this something new? I thought cars had to have gas caps? ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/2 "2012-09-26T00:19:10Z")
Ford’s doing this now (no gas cap). ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/3 "2012-09-26T00:23:17Z")
How is it stopping the Gas Vapors from entering the atmosphere (which is regulated by the EPA). Very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/4 "2012-09-26T00:43:54Z")
The fuel filler door has a rubber layre on the inside that seals against the filler. How this maintains a good seal without a locking mechanism (there is no door release) is a good question. I’ll look at it when I go home tonight. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/5 "2012-09-26T02:30:35Z")
It’s spring loaded. In my opinion, it’s a dumb move. When your gas cap stops sealing, you get a replacement for $10. How much is it going to cost to replace this thing, considering you’ll have to do at least a partial disassembly of the filler neck? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/6 "2012-09-26T02:43:12Z")
A spring loaded fuel door with no latch? It might be a good idea. I have an aging ladyfriend that is unable to open her current “push & twist” standard fuel cap due to arthritis. I made a special “T-handle wrench” (for lack of a better nomenclature) out of PVC piping to enable her to remove and install her cap without pain. Perhaps a design that doesn;t require the herculean efforts that many fuel caps demand is a good idea in our aging population. ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/7 "2012-09-26T03:57:41Z")
Did they at least put something in the hole to absorb spillage, like a rag? jk. Don’t ever do that. ---
**Author:** ![EllyEllis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f14d63/32.png) [@EllyEllis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EllyEllis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/8 "2012-09-26T06:01:42Z")
It seems to me that the cap-in-door is not a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/9 "2012-09-26T19:22:57Z")
I went looking for a phot to post. Coudn;t find one. Anybody out there have one? I agree with Elly for the reasons in my post, but it’d be interesting to hear what others think. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/10 "2012-09-26T19:28:03Z")
“Easy fuel” There is a short video on the Ford web site. [http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/](http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/) ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/11 "2012-09-26T19:42:12Z")
Thanks for the photo. I like the idea, but would like it better if the swing arm were metal and able to “collapse” if bumped and pop back out and be functional, and if I nkew there were some system to prevent driving away with the fuel door open. I see lots of that. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/12 "2012-09-26T20:03:30Z")
Fuel cap with a trap door; ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/13 "2012-09-26T20:57:01Z")
Nevada, I like that one too. Thanks for the tip. I’m going to see if they sell those to fit my friend’s Corolla. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/14 "2012-09-26T21:19:01Z")
IMO Ford should have just offered something like what Nevada pictured, for 3 reasons: No need to modify the filler design. Customers have a choice of “capless” or conventional. Much easier to replace than the built-in version. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/15 "2012-09-26T21:21:25Z")
Exactly, circuitsmith. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/16 "2012-09-26T21:53:17Z")
What scares me is, I am currently chasing a small evap leak in one of my cars. A pinhole as small as 0.040" will cause this error. In the near future, they propose to increase sensitivity to EVAP leaks to a pinhole as small as 0.020" ! The 2003 Camry is notorious for fuel neck rusting and causing EVAP issues. Unfortunately, this time around that is not my problem. However, a new fuel neck is fairly expensive and so I share the concerns about this type of thing being integrated into the fuel neck assembly. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/d/1d47c66a543aa6c5a7873bb2320858f978ff52ed.png) [@system](https://community.cartalk.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/17 "2012-09-26T23:12:27Z")
When I was shown it by the rental car agent, I thought to myself, what the hell, with no way to secure this you are just asking for some punk to pour suger or something into your tank… ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/no-longer-needing-a-gas-cap/74684/18 "2012-09-26T23:19:36Z")
True, it’s no different than other cars without a locking door or cap. But I do wish there was an inside release for the door…