# New "old" oil filter on Toyota **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** corolla, toyota\ **Created:** [April 7, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522 "2013-04-07T04:00:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/73ab20/32.png) [@Bode](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Bode)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/1 "2013-04-07T04:00:17Z")
Why did Toyota return to oil filter technology that was abandoned 40 years or so ago? ---
**Author:** ![galant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/77aa72/32.png) [@galant](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galant)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/2 "2013-04-07T04:02:54Z")
Because it is supposed to save the environment. Apparently we were dumping too many metal oil filters in the trash, they do not get recycled. I am not a big fan of these “new” ones mostly because I do my own oil changes and things could get messy with the paper filters. But, from what I have been told, like any change, you eventually get used to it. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/3 "2013-04-07T04:03:22Z")
What are you talking about? Tester ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/4 "2013-04-07T04:33:40Z")
New cars have plastic canister bodies. U can remove base plate and toss o-ring and than use traditional style filters. Almost all websites that cater to each car has details on how to do it. Pretty easy. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/5 "2013-04-07T04:38:47Z")
You mean the cartidge filters? That’s like saying if my furnace filter is dirty I should throw out the furnace. If the filter media becomes dirty why not just replace the filter media? Tester ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/6 "2013-04-07T05:56:49Z")
Sounds like the way it was on our 1958 Chevy. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 6:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/7 "2013-04-07T06:30:46Z")
Yeah, but the problem is that those cartridge filters often cost more than the spin-on filters. They should cost less to manufacturer. Consumers are getting ripped off. ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 6:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-old-oil-filter-on-toyota/78522/8 "2013-04-07T06:53:54Z")
Exactly; some bean counters thought of a way to shave production costs and increase profit margin. It’s the same reason they use injection molded plastic or a pop rivet instead of a screw. Cheaper. The point could be made that if one took a shipping container full of paper elements, the container would likely hold more individual filters and would cost less to ship based on weight as compared to a container full of steel canister filters.