# New gadget allows easy break-in to newer cars. Watch out! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 6, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958 "2016-04-06T22:57:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bloody\_knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@bloody\_knuckles](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bloody_knuckles)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/21 "2016-04-08T04:28:49Z")
@meanjoe75fan - I have owned several vehicles with over 200,000 miles that were well over 10 years old. I live in the snowy, icy part of NY State. Windows get frozen shut all the time. I have NEVER had a power window fail on me or had a window fall out of a track. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/22 "2016-04-08T05:20:17Z")
I’ve never had a power window fail in any of my cars, but I did have one fail in a girlfriend’s car years ago… in the down position… as we drove into the automatic car wash. Damn, that was wet & sudsy!!! ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/23 "2016-04-08T15:41:45Z")
I’ve never had a problem with power windows either. Been buying them since the mid 80’s. Won’t buy a vehicle without power windows or locks again. My 98 Pathfinder with close to 500k miles - never had a problem with the windows or locks - EVER. I have had problems with crank windows…Falling off track…and the handle. ---
**Author:** ![B.L.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@B.L.E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/B.L.E)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/24 "2016-04-08T16:14:41Z")
Could that be because only cheap cars still have crank windows? Perhaps we are getting cause and effect backwards here. I kind of like being able to roll up the windows if it’s starting to rain without needing to put the key in the ignition first. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/25 "2016-04-08T17:13:11Z")
> **I kind of like being able to roll up the windows if it's starting to rain without needing to put the key in the ignition first.** I like the idea of rolling up the windows when it’s raining while driving so I don’t have to pull over at a rest-stop…then get out of the car in the pouring rain…open up each of my 4 doors one at a time…and roll up the windows…then get back in the car and dry off. Sorry…for convenience…power-windows win every time. ---
**Author:** ![B.L.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@B.L.E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/B.L.E)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/26 "2016-04-09T07:02:54Z")
On the other hand, you could be in the passenger seat and the guy driving could let out a SBD (silent but deadly) fart and because he’s a real jerk, he activates the mommy lock so you can’t roll down your window. **THEN** you’ll wish you had crank windows!!! ---
**Author:** ![meanjoe75fan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/meanjoe75fan/32/552_2.png) [@meanjoe75fan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/meanjoe75fan)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/27 "2016-04-11T06:26:42Z")
I guess I’ve had the same number of failures in manual and power windows. The difference is, I can generally fix a hand crank with $5 and 10 mintues. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 6:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/28 "2016-04-11T06:36:11Z")
Ever notice how gate guards ask you to “buzz down the window” when you approach . . . ? I hear that far more frequently than “roll down the window” . . . at least from gate guards 😃 Goes to show that they EXPECT you to have power windows nowadays Nothing wrong with manual windows . . . we have them in most of our fleet trucks, and they’re very reliable ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/29 "2016-04-11T07:17:40Z")
It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that it’s cheaper to install power windows on every car of a specific model than to install rollers in one “package” and power windows in others. ---
**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 8:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958/30 "2016-04-11T08:13:44Z")
Well, if I simply must start storing my car key in the freezer I am going to need a bigger car to haul the fridge around with me. 😃 “Queen Faraday the Tech” [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-gadget-allows-easy-break-in-to-newer-cars-watch-out/92958.md?page=1)