# New car purchase optional extras

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866>\
**Category:** Buying/Selling\
**Created:** [April 27, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866 "2022-04-27T20:11:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/83 "2022-06-23T13:18:42Z")

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> [@Bmm](#):
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> Is there a way to check this as the dealer is not forthcoming with information.

For crying out loud . Just cancel the contract if you can . You do not seem to have much faith in this dealer now and it will probably get worse .

I have said this before , how do you expect anyone on the web to solve this for you .

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**Author:** ![Bmm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bmm](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Bmm)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/84 "2022-06-23T13:39:17Z")

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This is a forum to ask advice/opinions. People offer advice and may have experienced similar.  
If you don’t like my posts, then just ignore.  
If we cancel, we then have to wait months for another car. Some dealers are quoting 6 months, so cancelling isn’t really an option.

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**Author:** ![nofyfb\_180405](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@nofyfb\_180405](https://community.cartalk.com/u/nofyfb_180405)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/85 "2022-08-12T17:30:08Z")

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You can’t envision every scam a stealer has up his sleeve…

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**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/86 "2022-08-13T14:18:54Z")

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> [@Bmm](#):
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> It’s a Lexus and it’s not special to me, my wife seems to think it’s special.

Which Lexus? LC500? LFA? IS-F? Yeah, that’s special. ES350? Dime a dozen. I know, I have one. 😉

There are plenty of normal Lexuses out there that you don’t need to torture yourself by dealing with shyster dealerships.

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**Author:** ![nofyfb\_180405](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@nofyfb\_180405](https://community.cartalk.com/u/nofyfb_180405)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/87 "2022-08-29T16:26:15Z")

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You may consider checking availability in other states - it may make sense to travel. I bought a Prius and a hybrid Rav4 off the dealer’s lot in Idaho while in Colorado, there is a 6 month waiting list. The reason is simple: Colorado is an intelligent high-tech state while Idaho… is not.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/88 "2022-08-29T16:28:57Z")

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> [@nofyfb\_180405](#):
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> Colorado is an intelligent high-tech state while Idaho… is not.

Nice going ,another of your statements that will only irritate people . Trying to get another time out are you ?

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**Author:** ![nofyfb\_180405](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@nofyfb\_180405](https://community.cartalk.com/u/nofyfb_180405)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/89 "2022-08-29T16:46:58Z")

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Why simple facts offend you? I’ve lived in both Colorado and Idaho. Have you? Alternatively, you can run a simple google search to see for yourself.  
Again, facts are facts, and if you don’t like them, it’s your deficiency rather than that of facts.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/90 "2022-08-29T21:46:32Z")

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> [@nofyfb\_180405](#):
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> Again, facts are facts…

Actually you expressed opinions about the intelligence of people, not facts. Just because you have strong opinions does not make them facts. If you really think they are facts, then show objective evidence.

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**Author:** ![nofyfb\_180405](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@nofyfb\_180405](https://community.cartalk.com/u/nofyfb_180405)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/91 "2022-08-29T22:04:20Z")

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Opinions?  
Idaho takes an honorable 50th place in education spending:

> **[Education Spending by State - How does your state compare? - Teaching...](https://teaching-certification.com/teaching/education-spending-by-state/)**
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> Find out where your state stacks up in terms of overall education funding per pupil. Educate yourself, and learn whether your state representatives share your

You might find enlightening this resource:

> **[List of U.S. states and territories by educational attainment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_educational_attainment)**
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> This list of U.S. states and territories by educational attainment covers the 50 U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territory of Puerto Rico and their populations' educational attainment for all people of at least 25 years of age. The four other inhabited U.S. territories (American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands) are listed separately. 
> The data source for the main list is the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey in 2019. The data s...

And finally, look up “statistics” in a dictionary. You’ll be amazed. Promise. And when you are at it, look up “fact” as well.

FYI: If you don’t like a fact it doesn’t cease being one.

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**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/92 "2022-08-29T23:59:58Z")

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> [@nofyfb\_180405](#):
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> Idaho takes an honorable 50th place in education spending:

And yet, in the statistics that actually matter when talking about people’s ability to figure out problems - namely, educational achievement - Idaho ranks right at mid-pack, coming in at 23rd in the nation for its grade schools.

[https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education)

Perhaps if you were as well-educated in statistics as someone from Idaho, you’d know that dollars spent does not directly correlate to any other statistic you care to use to prove a (wrong) point, such as academic achievement. For comparison, California spends over $3,000 more per student than Idaho, but only ranks 40th.

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 10:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-car-purchase-optional-extras/183866/94 "2022-08-30T10:58:25Z")

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> [@nofyfb\_180405](#):
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> And finally, look up “statistics” in a dictionary.

Here’s another “fun fact” about statistics, they can be manipulated in many ways to support the bias of the person or entity compiling them, hence the saying:  
“figures lie, and liars figure”  
Just look at the probably the the largest statistic gathering entity around, U.S. Census Bur. They count illegal aliens……sorry undocumented immigrants. And this is used to allocate social services, draw voting districts, etc. using populations that aren’t even supposed to be here. But that’s a discussion for another forum. Sorry, but it had to be said.

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