# New Battery from the inventor of the Lithium battery **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 29, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635 "2024-03-29T00:08:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/1 "2024-03-29T00:08:55Z")
This could be a game changer in battery technology. [94-Year Old Lithium-Lon Battery Inventor Unveils New Ultra-Efficient Glass Battery (sci-nature.vip)](https://www.sci-nature.vip/2019/10/94-year-old-lithium-lon-battery.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/2 "2024-03-29T01:10:34Z")
Clearly a serious step forward. Hopefully it will transfer quickly to a manufacturer capable of mass production. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/3 "2024-03-29T02:28:51Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Clearly a serious step forward. Hopefully it will transfer quickly to a manufacturer capable of mass production That’s been a large problem with other newer batteries. Graphene is one example. So far it’s proven to be very difficult to mass produce cheaply. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/4 "2024-03-29T13:01:58Z")
John B. Goodenough What a great name for an engineer! The battle to counter perfectionism in engineering is a struggle at times. One of my joking sayings- sometimes you have to shoot the engineers and go to market… Perfection is the enemy of good enough… Of course, the opposite is also true. Micros@ft tends to use their customer base as an extension of their product validation team… ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/5 "2024-03-29T13:04:00Z")
They’re still working on the cathode so we’ll have to wait and see if those issues can also be overcome…but it appears promising! ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/6 "2024-03-29T13:09:08Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > One of my joking sayings- sometimes you have to shoot the engineers and go to market… > > Perfection is the enemy of good enough… > > Of course, the opposite is also true. Micros@ft tends to use their customer base as an extension of their product validation team… Agile pretty much eliminated either of those approaches. You develop in 2- 4 week sprints. Better accountability and easier to track. Management is NOT part of the Agile development team. All they do is dictate requirements. At any point in the Agile process - you can release a fairly stable product. It probably won’t have all the features, but it should be stable and relatively bug free. Lot better than trying to add all the features at once for a big race to the finish-line and hope everything works. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/7 "2024-03-29T13:16:14Z")
More info on the battery here. Apparently quite a bit of controversy over the claims: > **[Glass battery](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_battery)** > > The glass battery is a type of solid-state battery. It uses a glass electrolyte and lithium or sodium metal electrodes. The battery was invented by John B. Goodenough, inventor of the lithium cobalt oxide and lithium iron phosphate electrode materials used in the lithium-ion battery (Li-ion), and Maria H. Braga, an associate professor at the University of Porto and a senior research fellow at Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas. > The paper describing the battery was publish... ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/8 "2024-03-29T13:22:01Z")
I’m familiar. It’s certainly a step in the right direction but not a panacea for product development. > [@MikeInNH](#): > > Management is NOT part of the Agile development team. All they do is dictate requirements. They may not be visible but they are there. They sign the paychecks. The program leads answer to them. The scrum masters answer to project leads. Nothing new under the sun… > [@MikeInNH](#): > > Lot better than trying to add all the features at once for a big race to the finish-line and hope everything works. Yes, it is better than the legacy approach. In my experience, a pure form of Agile works best for software projects. When we start mixing in hardware development, it gets very costly as we have numerous iterations of expensive hardware that is scrapped along the way. We use a kind of hybrid approach that works for us… ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/9 "2024-03-29T16:45:47Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Apparently quite a bit of controversy over the claims: > > [Glass battery - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_battery) There should always be skepticism during any scientific endeavor. If other researchers try to duplicate the results with success then we can have more confidence in the glass battery. It appears that R&D on this technology is early enough that it will be many years before it makes it to market. Crab shell batteries are also a thing, and also very early in the R&D cycle. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/10 "2024-03-29T16:56:22Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > When we start mixing in hardware development, it gets very costly as we have numerous iterations of expensive hardware that is scrapped along the way. Agile is being applied to all sorts of things. My company does software AND hardware solutions. No problem with Agile being applied to either. Large commercial constructions are doing Agile. > [@TwinTurbo](#): > > They may not be visible but they are there. They sign the paychecks. The program leads answer to them. The scrum masters answer to project leads. Nothing new under the sun… No it is new. Developers are being held more accountable - especially by their peers. Every once in a while, I had to step in as manager for someone not performing. It’s usually caught early in the cycle. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/11 "2024-03-30T01:03:17Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > One of my joking sayings- sometimes you have to shoot the engineers and go to market… How’s that working out at Boeing? ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/new-battery-from-the-inventor-of-the-lithium-battery/194635/12 "2024-03-30T17:17:04Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > John B. Goodenough Sounds like an April Fools joke in the making.