# Need help please Insurance co. problems

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** dodge, ram-1500\
**Created:** [February 25, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541 "2020-02-25T18:01:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Russell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@Jeff\_Russell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Jeff_Russell)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/1 "2020-02-25T18:01:05Z")

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My legally parked truck was recently rear ended by a drunk driver. The Highway patrol showed up and took him to jail. When I bought the truck it was registered in Arizona (I live in Cali.) til 2023. Beings that the truck wouldn’t pass smog I kept the truck in the other mans name til I could get it repaired to pass smog. Now the insurance company totaled my truck out but don’t want to pay me, they want to pay the man I bought it from, who by the way is in the marine corps and has since been stationed on the east coast and I cannot find him. what can i do.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/2 "2020-02-25T18:06:35Z")

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I don’t know but call the JAG office to find him and get a limited power of attorney from him for this one transaction would be the easy way. Then as they say: repaint and thin no more. Don’t do things like this.

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**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/3 "2020-02-25T20:50:16Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Russell](#):
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> Now the insurance company totaled my truck out but don’t want to pay me, they want to pay the man I bought it from,

Because he is the legal owner as far as anybody is concerned.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/4 "2020-02-25T20:59:23Z")

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One more reason not to live in cali  
Cops say bobs truck. Are you bob? Huh. Bet that was odd  
Did they ask for your proof of insurance?

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**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/5 "2020-02-26T04:25:03Z")

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Seriously? You found a way to blame California for this mess?

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**Author:** ![pyrolord314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@pyrolord314](https://community.cartalk.com/u/pyrolord314)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/6 "2020-02-26T19:48:46Z")

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> [@wentwest](#):
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> Seriously? You found a way to blame California for this mess?

+1…seriously @Cavell California has nothing to do with this mess…if the OP lived in PA and the owner is based in Oregon the same problems would apply

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**Author:** ![tom418](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/da6949/32.png) [@tom418](https://community.cartalk.com/u/tom418)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/7 "2020-02-26T20:46:36Z")

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Did “the other man” KNOW that the car was being kept in his name?

If it were in his name , and you had a serious accident, it would be his assets that could get attached if there were a lawsuit as a result of an accident with you as a driver.

Yeah, the insurance company wants to pay the “other man”. It’s HIS truck all along.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/8 "2020-02-26T23:19:06Z")

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OP did not transfer title since truck won’t pass emissions. So, I do blame Cali as it does emission testing.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/9 "2020-02-26T23:25:38Z")

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> [@tom418](#):
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> If it were in his name , and you had a serious accident, it would be his assets that could get attached if there were a lawsuit as a result of an accident with you as a driver.

That wouldn’t happen if the seller had documentation of the sale and transfer of property. The seller can’t be held liable for the inactions of the buyer. I always do a dated and time stamped bill of sale, make two copies and we sign both so each person has an original, signed copy.

However, the buyer would be in a world of hurt. The state and local municipalities could prosecute for failing to register, tax evasion and probably others as well. Top it off, the insurance would likely bail due to breach of contract by the new owner, leaving him on the hook for any lawsuits that might result…

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/10 "2020-02-26T23:34:38Z")

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Your best hope is they send him the check, he sends it to you and do not understand how you got insurance on a vehicle you did not own, though maybe you did not and the other driver was at fault and payed the owner of record. Things can get complicated really fast when you try to game the system.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/11 "2020-02-26T23:42:48Z")

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> [@Cavell](#):
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> OP did not transfer title since truck won’t pass emissions. So, I do blame Cali as it does emission testing.

Plenty of places do emissions testing besides CA.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/12 "2020-02-26T23:45:42Z")

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OP problem it would not pass CA emissions. Saying the proper route would have been to transfer title and plates and done work to get it to pass in CA.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/13 "2020-02-26T23:46:06Z")

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How should he have transferred title based on his Cali address?

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/14 "2020-02-26T23:48:43Z")

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He dd nothing, I imagine this is somewhat illegal.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/15 "2020-02-27T01:54:24Z")

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Contact the legal owner (per the title document) and ask him to cash the check, then send you a check for that amount. Consider yourself fortunate you didn’t get a ticket for not immediately licensing the vehicle in California. If you can’t find the legal owner you’ll have to contact the Calif DMV. They probably have a form that you can sign for this situation, you explain the situation then your signature attests you are actually the legal owner. The downside of this approach is they may ask how long the vehicle has been in Calif.

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**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/16 "2020-02-27T06:26:49Z")

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What you do is take the paperwork to the DMV and record the transfer of title, and tell them to put it in “Non-operation” status. Then it’s yours. Then fix it so it passes emissions and register it. None of that helps you with the mess you are in, but then again, it’s your mess, you made it and you have to live with it.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 7:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/17 "2020-02-27T07:11:28Z")

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“the insurance company totaled my truck out”

The truck is totaled out. It can’t be tested for emissions now.

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**Author:** ![jewp1405\_161577](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jewp1405\_161577](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jewp1405_161577)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/18 "2020-02-29T05:33:05Z")

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So you were not honest in your dealings and now want a legal way out of a questionable transaction? Really? the man, whoever he is, owns the car. !

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/19 "2020-02-29T19:41:08Z")

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Huh? Think you need. To read the whole thing. It’s not my truck.

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**Author:** ![ptesterman\_156278](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@ptesterman\_156278](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ptesterman_156278)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/need-help-please-insurance-co-problems/159541/20 "2020-03-01T23:33:40Z")

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I’m surprised you couldn’t just transfer the title in AZ, but that’s water under the bridge, now.

I can think of 3 options:

1. Do as Bing suggested above to get a limited POA and/or a letter from the former owner to release the funds to you.
2. See if you can transfer the title now that it’s totaled (don’t know if this would work for the insurance company)
3. Contact a lawyer instead of an Internet forum with a bunch of yahoos who have not legal training but are happy to give advice.

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