# My Olds Aurora is misfiring and backfiring **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** aurora, oldsmobile\ **Created:** [December 7, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098 "2017-12-07T19:07:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/1 "2017-12-07T19:07:53Z")
Hey Guys Quick history, My car was backfiring last month, my shadetree mechanic changed out the plugs, plug wires, tranny filter oil and filter and the backfires stopped, they are back. My 96 Olds is backfiring when I jump on the gas and it’s “bouncing” or idling with “skips” at a stoplight (rough idle). Add to this, I didn’t drive it for 3-4 days and the battery was dead when I came to start it (possible vampire drain). I’m thinking fuel filter on the misfires since we put new plugs in already (these issues always mean fuel or fire). I need your input please, I’ve spent so much already trying to fix this. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/2 "2017-12-07T19:09:55Z")
Will a scan tool help if this is fuel related? I mean a handheld, not the $5,000 dealer scan machines. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/3 "2017-12-07T19:18:26Z")
Check your fuel pressure. The regulators were a problem back then. I don’t know how a scan tool would check fuel pressure, even OBD II. Other than that check ignition again. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/4 "2017-12-08T01:01:05Z")
Backfires are often caused by ignition timing problems, valve problems, or mixture problems. Is the check engine light on? Have the diagnostic codes been checked yet? If not, that’s the place to start. Get all the diagnostic codes, active and pending and post them here. Backfiring unlikely to be caused by the fuel filter imo. But if you need a new fuel filter anyway, good time to replace that in any event. ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/5 "2017-12-08T23:49:53Z")
Hi George, and thanks for helping again…the last time we ran an OBDII scan, the result was multiple random misfires, then we changed the plugs and wires, cleared it up, but they’ve returned. You can feel the “hiccup” when sitting at a stoplight, it’s missing, and it backfires if I step on the accelerator too quickly. I should say, I noticed my serpentine belt seems too loose and one other clue…when I start my car the last few days, I have to turn the key 2-3 times before it responds? I don;t believe it’s the starter as I know what grinding teeth sound like/or failing bearings, it’s literally just not responding to the key-turn unless I turn it quite deliberately. I was afraid to shut my car off when I picked my boy up at school today. Any clues on the poor reaction to the ignition key turn? Solenoid? Timing? (my shadetree got his timing gun stolen) ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/6 "2017-12-08T23:53:39Z")
Thanks again Bing,. you actually helped me figure out the initial problem (I changed the plugs but not the wires) As soon as we changed the wires it ran great for 2 weeks, but the rough idle is back, you can feel it “hiccup” when idling. Also, if this helps, when I turn my ignition, the key won’t start the car the first time, I have to turn it quite deliberately 2-3 times before it starts… ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/7 "2017-12-08T23:57:04Z")
If I had to guess if you pull your plugs they will be fouled, let us know if all or some or none are fouled ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/8 "2017-12-08T23:58:16Z")
I forgot to tell you, when I didn’t drive my car for like 4 days, I came out and it was dead as a doornail, and I mean so dead my charger wouldn’t start it, I had to use another car…can this be related or do you believe this is a separate issue. I know what a bad starter sounds like, and this isn’t that…solenoid maybe? Ignition switch, timing? My serpentine belt doesn’t seem tight enough, I can easily flip it over with one hand (this is an old-school test, it should be too tight to easily roll the belt over with your fingers of one hand) Thank you so much ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/9 "2017-12-08T23:58:46Z")
> [@wyattspoppa](#): > > when I start my car the last few days, I have to turn the key 2-3 times before it responds? I don;t believe it’s the starter as I know what grinding teeth sound like/or failing bearings, it’s literally just not responding to the key-turn unless I turn it quite deliberately. If you mean you turn the key to “start” but you don’t hear that normal rrr rrr rrr sound indicating the starter is cranking the engine, first thing to do is make sure the battery is good, and the connections at the battery posts are clean and tight. This is a very common complaint we get here this time of the year, as the colder temperatures affect the entire starting circuit, including the battery and the starter motor. Note: the symptoms of a failing starter motor are not usually grinding noises. The most common symptom is a single click sound when turning the key to “start”. I > [@wyattspoppa](#): > > You can feel the “hiccup” when sitting at a stoplight, it’s missing, and it backfires if I step on the accelerator too quickly Missing can cause backfires. The gas and air come into the engine, but don’t get burned, so the gas/air just goes into the exhaust system, where it heats up and explodes, causing a “pop”, a backfire sound. Once you get the misfire problems corrected the backfires should go away. suggest to re-check the OBD II diagnostic codes before making any further guesses about what’s causing the missing. ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/10 "2017-12-08T23:59:38Z")
Plugs and wires were changed 2 weeks ago, once we changed the wires this problem disappeared, it reappeared a few days ago ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/11 "2017-12-09T00:06:33Z")
How do you plugs look now is what I am asking. ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/12 "2017-12-09T00:16:04Z")
Just changed them 2 weeks ago so I can’t imagine they look too bad ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/13 "2017-12-09T00:17:38Z")
OK George, I think it’s time I bought a scan tool, I can’t just keep paying for scans at $90-$110 a pop ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/14 "2017-12-09T00:20:21Z")
This may explain quite a bit, I have so many random electrical failures, my drivers seat won’t move, my trunk will only release using my remote (not the dash switch), my cruise control quit working…one window labors badly going down, my rear view mirrors won’t move… ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/15 "2017-12-09T00:21:36Z")
I must admit I’ve left my window open several times when it rained and water could have easily gotten into the door jam where the mirror and car seat buttons are ---
**Author:** ![wyattspoppa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/47e85d/32.png) [@wyattspoppa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wyattspoppa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-olds-aurora-is-misfiring-and-backfiring/110098/16 "2017-12-09T00:24:18Z")
I don’t know how to check ignition, and did you see the photo of the broken wire I found on my block? George thinks it’s a ground wire for my battery, (even though the battery is under the back seat, there is an “annex” under the hood where you can jump your car without accessing the actual battery