# My Friend's Daughter's Philippine Market Toyota 2024 Vios - Observations: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** toyota\ **Created:** [April 14, 2025, 10:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878 "2025-04-14T10:14:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 10:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/1 "2025-04-14T10:14:12Z")
My Friend’s Daughter’s Philippine Market Toyota 2024 Vios - Observations: It’s a plain vanilla Vios, know in North America as the Yaris. However, there’s a few things about it that I feel leave the U.S. market version somewhat lacking: #1. The Stereo. The tone control is a SEVEN BAND graphic equalizer, with Q(bandwidth) settings for each frequency slider! But no, that’s a bit overwhelming for us Yanks, so we’re stuck with the same unit, but just Bass & Treble, maybe midrange settings. #2. The Tires. This car clearly was made entirely in Japan, for Eastern markets, except for putting the steering wheel on the left side for the Philippine Market. The cold tire pressure door placard displays pressure as kPa only: Front 220, Rear 210 (PSI 32, 30). But no: Toyota thinks Americans can’t handle staggered tire pressures, so 32psi it is, at all four corners on U.S. imports! As for the factory Yoke’s themselves, NOWHERE on the sidewalls is there to be found a tire pressure of any kind (Max cold or otherwise). EXCELLENT! Because nobody should be setting cold pressures based on that info anyway. Go to the driver door pillar or gas filler lid(IE: Mercedes) for the correct cold pressures. Handling is acceptable, with reasonable weight buildup steering into the turns. It is electric, so kind of artificial feeling, but intuitive enough for the average driver around here. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/2 "2025-04-14T14:09:40Z")
So you just got back from test driving it then?? ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/3 "2025-04-14T14:09:48Z")
Seems this “analysis” is moot considering the Yaris hasn’t been sold in the US for 3 or 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/4 "2025-04-14T14:13:01Z")
I must be exceptional because our current vehicle has different PSI for front and rear and it not a problem . ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/5 "2025-04-14T14:15:01Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > I must be exceptional because our current vehicle has > different PSI for front and rear and it not a problem . That’s good. Do you actually set them that way? If you do, that makes two of us out of who knows how many Americans. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/6 "2025-04-14T14:21:54Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > our current vehicle has different PSI for front and rear and it not a problem . All 3 of my Subarus specified different PSI for front & rear, and I also did not consider it to be a problem. I kept them inflated to 3 or 4 psi over the specification, while maintaining the correct inflation differential. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/7 "2025-04-14T14:26:45Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > I kept them inflated to 3 or 4 psi over the specification, Why? > [@VDCdriver](#): > > while maintaining the correct inflation differential. Good. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/8 "2025-04-14T15:13:18Z")
Because that’s the way I like it. After you informed us that you own 12 tire pressure gauges, I asked you why, and you angrily replied that it was “none of your consarned business”. Do you have no recollection of that exchange? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/9 "2025-04-14T15:31:53Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > Because that’s the way I like it. Well, I did explain that the pressures on the door frame placard account for 110-130%(depending on make or model of vehicle) of gross front and read axle weight, and that any more than 1psi over is unnecessary, and only personal preference. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/10 "2025-04-14T15:34:55Z")
Okay, now that you explained that (which most of us already know…), now it’s time for you to tell us what nobody knows, namely why you own 12 tire pressure gauges. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/11 "2025-04-14T15:42:27Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > The cold tire pressure door placard displays pressure as kPa only: Front 220, Rear 210 (PSI 32, 30). But no: Toyota thinks Americans can’t handle staggered tire pressures If that is the case, why do I see staggered tire pressures on the door placards ALL THE TIME, including some that specify more pressure in the front Apparently, the car manufacturers seem to think we’re capable of understanding which tire gets inflated to what pressure > [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > As for the factory Yoke’s themselves, NOWHERE on the sidewalls is there to be found a tire pressure of any kind (Max cold or otherwise). EXCELLENT! Because nobody should be setting cold pressures based on that info anyway. > > Go to the driver door pillar or gas filler lid(IE: Mercedes) for the correct cold pressures. Those tires you looked at probably aren’t legally for sale here. They probably only hae the information on the sidewall that is legally required Owner manuals tell you to look at the door placard or the fuel filler door. I’m not aware of any owner manuals that tell you to look at the tire > [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > That’s good. Do you actually set them that way? If you do, that makes two of us out of who knows how many Americans. Again, you seem to be implying that only you and a select few know how to do things properly. Seems kind of arrogant to me 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/12 "2025-04-14T15:54:05Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Again, you seem to be implying that only you and a select few know how to do things properly. Seems kind of arrogant to me 🤔 Great point db, I was just thinking that I would almost bet that more Americans know how to check their air pressure than how to replace a head gasket, or rebuild an engine, or gasp, rebuild a transmission (does Chris know how to do any of those things), but you don’t see us cramming how to do it down peoples throats on the forum almost every time we make a post… ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/13 "2025-04-14T15:55:39Z")
Carolyn already cautioned him about his posts in which he implied that he is smarter than everyone else, but it seems that her warning has not been heeded. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/14 "2025-04-14T15:57:35Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > I’m not aware of any owner manuals that tell you to look at the tire I am quite aware of, and get into vicious arguments, with folks on forums like this who make statements like: “The tire maker knows better what to inflate the tire to” and “The pressure on the vehicle placard is too low” etc. That’s what I’m trying to un-screw-up. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/15 "2025-04-14T16:34:52Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > “The tire maker knows better what to inflate the tire to” Where do you think the information for those placards comes from? It comes from the tire makers. The final numbers are a collaboration between tire maker and car maker. An example of this: The Corvette C4 was delivered with a placard stating 35 psi cold. The pressure was chosen for CAFE fuel mileage requirements. Corvette spread the word around that they tuned the car to ride best at 30 psi all around. And it did. All the limit handling tests were done with both pressures to insure the car performed properly. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/16 "2025-04-14T16:45:30Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > comes from the tire makers. It is also based on a safety margin above gross axle weight. I ran the calculations myself for my 2010 Honda Accord EX. With 32psi cold in its 225-50R17 tires, the front tires support 111% of gross front axle and the rears, 125% of gross rear axle. They are handling pressures. Inflate them to 34psi or higher, and they become fuel economy pressures. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/17 "2025-04-14T17:18:00Z")
You keep railing about “low profile” tires Yet you just mentioned YOUR 2010 Accord EX with 225/50R17 tires That makes you the king of hypocrites, imo 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/18 "2025-04-14T19:05:19Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > That makes you the king of hypocrites, imo +1 My vehicle has P235/50R20 tires. I hope that they are… okay… with our self-appointed tire expert. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/19 "2025-04-14T19:17:13Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > It is also based on a safety margin above gross axle weight Just where do you think those margins come from? It comes from the tire makers. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878/20 "2025-04-14T19:36:27Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > The cold tire pressure door placard displays pressure as kPa only: Front 220, Rear 210 (PSI 32, 30). But no: Toyota thinks Americans can’t handle staggered tire pressures, so 32psi it is, at all four corners on U.S. imports! This is the tire pressure information from the owner’s manual for the 2020 Toyota Yaris: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/3/83ac856460f2fe1c9ea619b9f287f9f24ea76cf7.png) Different tire pressure for front/rear is not unusual. Get a job in the automotive service industry, hands-on exposure to vehicles can be educational. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/my-friends-daughters-philippine-market-toyota-2024-vios-observations/199878.md?page=2)