# ‘Motor Vehicle Crash Prevention’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Safety\ **Created:** [August 2, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246 "2025-08-02T02:11:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![bloody\_knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@bloody\_knuckles](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bloody_knuckles)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/81 "2025-08-06T11:13:57Z")
You never hear the phrase “Plane Accident”. It’s always “Plane Crash”. Why? A crash almost always has a human element of error or random component failure (typically also caused by some sort of human error in design and/or maintenance). I’ve hit a few deer that some would classify as an accident. But a local sheriff smartly pointed out that I was driving on a road called “Deer Alley” by the locals. I slowed down after the two deer/car encounters and did not hit another because the actual cause of my crashes were excessive speed for the conditions. I actually agree with @ChrisTheTireWhisperer for once. We love to say things were “an accident” but truthfully we bear the blame for inattentiveness, carelessness, excessive speed, poor maintenance, and other things that make it a crash, rather than an accident. ---
**Author:** ![hiker16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@hiker16](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hiker16)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/82 "2025-08-06T11:47:00Z")
I always liked the CG’s distinction of collision (hitting a moving object (another vessel) vs allision- hitting a stationary one (cough…like a bridge pier). ---
**Author:** ![hiker16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@hiker16](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hiker16)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/83 "2025-08-06T11:50:16Z")
I follow an aviation podcast (“Mentour Pilot”) hosted by an airline training captain. One thing stresses, is that while freak, bolt-out-of-the blue accidents _do_ occur…. most accidents/crashes are a series of small missteps, misjudgments, miscommunications, that, individually, are non issues; collectively spell disaster. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/84 "2025-08-06T14:10:57Z")
Mentour is good! I also follow Captain ‘Steeeve’ (his channel). He’s a senior 777 Cap about to retire. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/85 "2025-08-06T14:20:03Z")
Yeah I like him. He just couldn’t accept that the air India pilot actually crashed the plane on purpose. It one thing to kill yourself over demons in your head but quite another to take 270 other innocents with you. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/86 "2025-08-06T15:43:10Z")
> [@hiker16](#): > > allision Wow, had not heard that term before, even in conjunction with the container ship Dali hitting the Francis Scott Key bridge. Heck, not even mentioned when I took the CG Aux boating class 30 years ago. Bet our friends on the other side of the pond came up this that term. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/87 "2025-08-06T16:06:21Z")
He was trying to “say it without saying it” ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/88 "2025-08-06T16:37:37Z")
> [@bloody\_knuckles](#): > > we bear the blame for inattentiveness, carelessness, excessive speed, poor maintenance, and other things that make it a crash, rather than an accident. My commute takes me through a bottleneck every day. On my drive home, it’s not unusual for the first 21 miles of freeway to take an hour. I routinely see fender benders and crashes. How hard can it be to stay in your lane and not run into the car in front of you. My pet peeve…traffic is crawling along and I’m in the HOV/Toll lane doing 50+ when someone changes lanes right in front of me. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/89 "2025-08-06T20:50:09Z")
Another new age word. Titanic _collided_ with the iceberg as far as I’m concerned. “Allided”? Another great word mystery: Gasoline - flammable or “inflammable”? (they are synonyms) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/90 "2025-08-06T22:10:20Z")
She looks. Plain as she planes lumber. Actually she doesn’t look plain at all. Lumber capitol log yard. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/91 "2025-08-06T22:31:50Z")
Another new age word. Titanic _collided_ with the iceberg as far as I’m concerned. “Allided”? Another great word mystery: Gasoline - flammable or inflammable?? (They are synonyms) ---
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/92 "2025-08-07T01:53:54Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > flammable or “inflammable”? There should be a slight difference in meaning, the former that the thing will burn, the latter that it will ignite readily. I used to live near the shore of a salt lake. I’d pick up pieces of lumber that washed ashore - detritus from some construction project. I heated with wood, threw those pieces in. They’d burn if something else was burning but wouldn’t support a flame on their own. I thought of that as the difference. I don’t think the words actually bear my preferred meaning though. Think of ‘cite’ and ‘incite’. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/93 "2025-08-07T11:50:59Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > flammable or inflammable > **[Flammable vs. Inflammable](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/flammable-or-inflammable)** > > Both words mean the same thing, but one of them is bound to confuse most people. > **[Flammable vs. Inflammable: What's the Difference?](https://www.grammarly.com/commonly-confused-words/flammable-vs-inflammable)** > > When should you use flammable vs. inflammable? Examine their meanings and learn when to use flammable or inflammable in a sentence. > **[Flammable vs Inflammable - Why They Mean the Same Thing](https://sciencenotes.org/flammable-vs-inflammable-why-they-mean-the-same-thing/)** > > Learn why flammable and inflammable mean the same thing. Explore the difference between flammable and nonflammable. ---
**Author:** ![bloody\_knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@bloody\_knuckles](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bloody_knuckles)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/94 "2025-08-07T12:17:56Z")
I follow that podcast too. He does excellent objective analysis and careful breakdown of each scenario to show why most crashes are totally preventable (and have often lead to changes in aviation policies, training, and equipment). ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/95 "2025-08-07T12:20:19Z")
Head. Hurts. I just say to the avg. schmoe _flammable_, and they get it. ---
**Author:** ![hiker16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@hiker16](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hiker16)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/96 "2025-08-07T17:36:26Z")
[allision - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=allision) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/97 "2025-08-07T21:31:52Z")
Hmmm… Is it an “allision” if a moving ship hits a docked or anchored one? Or if I hit a parked car with mine? ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 12:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/98 "2025-08-08T12:03:14Z")
If you hit a parked car with your ship, I hope there is video😀 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/99 "2025-08-08T12:28:39Z")
Either way, as with ‘bigly’, ‘allision’ is a term not likely to be used in my personal circles. ---
**Author:** ![hiker16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@hiker16](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hiker16)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246/100 "2025-08-08T16:29:31Z")
Yes, technically, to both- since you’re hitting a fixed, or at least stationary, object. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/motor-vehicle-crash-prevention/201246.md?page=6)